Vladimirov made mostly tea glass holders and therefore had to buy his flatware from supliers like K.P (lat. K.R), please notice that his original punch have only one dot in an oval cartouche K.P, or no dot KP in a rectangular cartouch. K.P made only knives, forks and spoons 1884-1908. His name is unfortunately not deciphert until today. To buy from supliers was absolute normal, even FabergÃ© did it.