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Is this Stolberg mark?
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:45 pm
by jackk
I came across a salt cellar with a mark that resembles mark of Stolberg, Germany. However, this looks more like a goat than a stag. I am attaching a mark and a picture of the salt cellar.
What is this mark?
Re: Is this Stolberg mark?
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:55 pm
by Theoderich
No it isnt Stolberg
You are right Stolberg have a stag as townmark an this is a goat.
I am not sure about the letters - it is a "LI"?
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:00 pm
by jackk
The letters are LF. I think I exhausted my resources in identifying this mark.
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:24 pm
by Theoderich
jackk wrote:The letters are LF. I think I exhausted my resources in identifying this mark.
I have also no idea- but ask stecci
the swiss town Chur have as townmark goat
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:25 am
by blakstone
The general form of this mark - circular, with initials and a device - is consistent with 19th century Northern Italian maker's marks in the Kingdom of Lombardy—Venetia. So, on a hunch, I checked and sure enough this appears to be the maker's mark of Luca Franceschini of Milan, active ca. 1838-1864. Odd, because there should also be two other marks - a standard/guarantee mark and an assay office mark. Very curious.
Ref: Vittorio Donaver & Roberto Dabbene, Argenti Italiani dell'800, v. II: Punzoni di Argentieri Italiani (Milan: San Gottardo, 1989), p. 193, mark 1227.
Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:13 pm
by jackk
Thanks Blakstone. Italian it is...
Re: Is this Stolberg mark?
Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 8:57 am
by amena
Hi Balckstone
to find only the maker mark in Italian silver of 1850-1870 is odd but not very odd.
I have several example of that.
Yes, there should also be two other marks - a standard/guarantee mark and an assay office mark, but it's not always the case.
Maybe because of the political troubles in that years.
Here is a passage from Gianguido Sambonet "Gli argenti Milanesi"
L'8 giugno 1859, Vittorio Emanuele II e Napoleone III entrano in Milano. Con l'armistizio di Villafranca, la Lombardia è annessa al Piemonte. ...........
Col 1860 e con l'unificazione nazionale, le normative regionali perdono significato ...................e con la legge n. 806 del 2 maggio 1872..... la bollatura diventa facoltativa. A Milano continua a far testo il bollo di bottega..........
On June 8, 1859, Vittorio Emanuele II and Napoleon III enter into Milan. With the armistice of Villafranca Lombardy was annexed to Piedmont. ...........
By 1860 and with the unification of the nation , regional laws lose their meaning ..................with the law n. 806 of May 2, 1872 ..... hallmarking becomes optional. In Milan, is the master mark that carry weight.......
Kind regards
Amena