Austrian silver plate 1826

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Austrian silver plate 1826

Postby meyrink » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:07 pm

Hello.

Could you please help me with the maker mark of this plate? And what is the St. George mark? I cant read the city letter unfortunately.

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Thank you

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Re: Austrian silver plate 1826

Postby AG2012 » Sat Sep 19, 2020 3:48 pm

Hi,
Have seen those marks on faked silver, but the cobination of Austria-Hungary 1826 and Moscow StGeorge is extremely unusual and absurd.
Both marks do not look right,by the way.
What is it ? The object, I mean.
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Re: Austrian silver plate 1826

Postby meyrink » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:14 pm

It is a plate. It looks original for me. What do you think?

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Re: Austrian silver plate 1826

Postby meyrink » Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:44 pm

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Re: Austrian silver plate 1826

Postby AG2012 » Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:50 am

Hi,
Very interesting case.
Austria - Hungary marks compared - yours is partially struck.In the middle number 13 is expected (fineness expressed as 13 Loth).

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I have never seen StGeorge,very similar to Moscow assay office,on Austrian silver.On the other hand, there are examples of ``Russified`` silver,i.e.faked Russian marks added to already existing silver in order to increase the value.But this StGeorge mark is done with extremely well done and detailed punch, never seen in faked marks.
The style of the plate is typical Vienna Biedermeier rose silver (Wiener Biedermeier Rosensilber).
In a word,StGeorge is a mystery to me.
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Re: Austrian silver plate 1826

Postby meyrink » Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:43 am

Thank you.

What do you think about the craftsmanship of the plate, looks authentic? Was that pattern used in early Biedermeier? Is it possible, that St. George is not Moscow but other city or any other special mark?

Best wishes, meyrink

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Re: Austrian silver plate 1826

Postby AG2012 » Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:04 am

Typical decor for Vienna 1826 (embossed or cast roses;thus Wiener Rosensilber name).
StGeorge is a mystery;never seen it on Austria-Hungary silver.
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Re: Austrian silver plate 1826

Postby meyrink » Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:02 pm

Thank you for your expertise.

Does anybody know the maker mark, please?

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Re: Austrian silver plate 1826

Postby Aguest » Sun Sep 20, 2020 5:00 pm

Check the post above yours, is it not [WR] the maker's mark? :: There's something just too "official-looking" about that St. George Slaying The Dragon hallmark, what could it be? :::

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Re: Austrian silver plate 1826

Postby huszas76 » Mon Sep 21, 2020 1:10 pm

Hello!
I think this marks fake.
Best regards!
Krisztián

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Re: Austrian silver plate 1826

Postby meyrink » Mon Sep 21, 2020 2:41 pm

Thank you for your responses. In few days I will have offical test of silver content and will add more detail pictures.

Have a nice day, meyrink


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