Marrow scoop with two unknown marks

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Marrow scoop with two unknown marks

Postby oel » Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:03 am

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Above marks are seen on a marrow scoop. I thought perhaps Nordic?
Who recognizes these marks and can tell more about them? Thanks in advance.
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Re: Marrow scoop with two unknown marks

Postby oel » Sun Jul 25, 2021 8:42 am

Perhaps Finland and IHP for Johan Henrik Petrelius, active in Pori / Björneborg1825-1867?

His mark seen on a silver creamer IHP (without dots)
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Town mark of Pori; crowned bear head, variants of a (walking) bear .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pori

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Re: Marrow scoop with two unknown marks

Postby Sasropakis » Sun Jul 25, 2021 9:58 am

I don't see a bear in the hallmark but to be honest many examples of Pori town mark don't look like a bear either: https://www.leimat.fi/en/pori

I couldn't find any other items made by Petrelius except that creamer so I can't say if he used a mark with dots. Are there any signs of a crown mark anywhere? Usually if some hallmarks (most likely date or town) are omitted the crowm mark should still be there. Or are there any signs that the item has been altered at some point because I haven't seen any Finnish marrow scoops from early/mid 19th century.

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Re: Marrow scoop with two unknown marks

Postby Theoderich » Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:18 am

Johann Heinrich Partisch II in Berlin ca. 1810

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Re: Marrow scoop with two unknown marks

Postby oel » Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:11 pm

Thank you Theoderich. Using my in the past printed version of your site Silberpunzen. I recognize Berlin town mark a standing bear and a letter next to the bear's back (additional assayer's mark) and indeed for 1810 period. Maker's mark I.H.P for; Johann Heinrich Partisch (Bartisch)II
Again thank you very much for your assistance.


Thanks Sasropakis, at least we had the bear right, or not.

Regards,

Peter


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