Is this an Augsburg City mark?

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Is this an Augsburg City mark?

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Hi-

I am a complete newbie trying to research the history of some family gold-plated silverware. It was acquired sometime in the 1840s by my ancestor who was a successful ship captain. It was a gift to him supposedly from someone with a Napoleon connection. So, I was looking at French hallmarks but couldn't find anything that looked like this. In my day of Googling the only thing remotely like it I found would be an Augsburg city mark from the 1790s. There are only two marks, a pinecone thing over a Y, and something that looks like a pretzel.

It is a set of 18. There are a couple of knives and forks that I believe were added at a later date that have a London hallmark (either from 1831 or 1911, I can't tell the difference between those two letter years).

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Re: Is this an Augsburg City mark?

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Hi, welcome to the forum. Please embedded your images.viewtopic.php?f=5&t=42199

Great silver cutlery set. Indeed Augsburg, year letter Y used 1777-1779. The pretzel mark/maker's mark could be for: Johann Beckert V (the fifth).

viewtopic.php?t=18518
https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/231605

The replacement piece, I believe made in London;
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London year letter q for 1791
https://www.silvermakersmarks.co.uk/Dat ... -1795.html
Maker's mark MB for Moses Brent;
https://www.silvermakersmarks.co.uk/Mak ... MC.html#MB
The London town mark leopard's head mark seems not to be struck, duty mark of King George III (1786-1821) only.
https://www.925-1000.com/british_marks.html

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Re: Is this an Augsburg City mark?

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Thank you so much! And thanks for embedding the images for me. I tried embedding the imugr link between the img tags but it didn't work, maybe because of multiple images?

Some of the other replacement forks do have the leopard head but a different makers mark. But anyway I am mostly interested in the origin of the main set, so thanks again.
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