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17th century German silver tumbler unknown

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:12 am
by legrandmogol
This cup was part of the lot I recently acquired. It has a very blurred city mark and a less blurred makers mark. The maker's mark appears to be MN or possibly MM. I don't know what the city mark is. I'm going to keep looking but hopefully, someone will figure it out. It measures about 2" tall x 2.75" wide. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: 17th century German silver tumbler unknown

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:09 am
by legrandmogol
Ok, I think I figured this one out. I think it is Martin Noetzel of Wuerzburg

Re: 17th century German silver tumbler unknown

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:50 pm
by Theoderich
legrandmogol wrote:Ok, I think I figured this one out. I think it is Martin Noetzel of Wuerzburg


You are right

Re: 17th century German silver tumbler unknown

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:11 pm
by legrandmogol
thank you for the confirmation. It was only because of your work at Silberpunze that I found that. Do you know Martin Noetzel's working dates? Also, do you know if Wuerzburg had date letters in their mark? I think mine has an H but that's not definitive.

Re: 17th century German silver tumbler unknown

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 7:11 pm
by Theoderich
legrandmogol wrote: Also, do you know if Wuerzburg had date letters in their mark? I think mine has an H but that's not definitive.


The letter H is not a dateletter.
I do not know, what this letter means, but I know some Items aubout from 1700 with this letter.
Normaly there is a letter W = Würzburg.


Martin Noetze, master 1681,
mentioned ..1709

Re: 17th century German silver tumbler unknown

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:38 pm
by legrandmogol
thank you for the information. I keep my eye for german silver books but they're often very expensive and not easily found in the US