German Silver hunter trophy

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German Silver hunter trophy

Postby rgutierrez » Fri Apr 10, 2020 3:37 pm

This trophy was inherited from my grandmother some years a go. It has a signature with a sophisticated P and B, but I have searched the web and i could´t find it. It seems that the letters in the front seal are in ancient German. If someone has any clue I wold greatly appreciate it.

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Re: German Silver hunter trophy

Postby AG2012 » Fri Apr 10, 2020 4:53 pm

Hi,
I managed to open links to your images:PB engraved, possible initials of the owner, nothing to help with the maker.
The medallion is too small to read the inscription,but it bears the coat of arms of German town Bremen.
If you want more info I suggest to take better close up of the inscription and search for marks.Sometimes it takes time.
Try to embed your images.
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Re: German Silver hunter trophy

Postby rgutierrez » Fri Apr 10, 2020 5:58 pm

Thank you. Here some details.

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I found a mark but is not clear. I have to edit it to make it more claer.

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Re: German Silver hunter trophy

Postby rgutierrez » Fri Apr 10, 2020 6:14 pm

I don´t know how to make the images more easy to view. Sorry. After editing the image this is what i found. There are two marks.

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Re: German Silver hunter trophy

Postby AG2012 » Sat Apr 11, 2020 3:09 am

Hi,
Zweites Deutsches Bundesschießen (2nd German Shooting Festival)16-24 July 1865 in Bremen.
400 shooters came from Oldenburg, 200 from Hamburg, 70 from Berlin, 30 from Switzerland,62 German-born shooters arrived from New York on the Bremen steamer. 554 prizes and gifts of honor had arrived in Bremen from German communities and associations all over the world, but those from princely houses were hardly among them.
Special Thaler coin was minted.
Unfortunately, no silver marks are present in your images.What you showed in your images are not silver marks.Try to find them.
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Re: German Silver hunter trophy

Postby rgutierrez » Sat Apr 11, 2020 4:15 am

Thanks a lot. I found the mark.

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Re: German Silver hunter trophy

Postby AG2012 » Sat Apr 11, 2020 4:43 am

Hi,
Right,it was made by prominent Bremen silversmiths Wilkens & Söhne,founded 1810 by Martin Heinrich Wilkens.
13 is silver fineness .812 (in Loth units).
See here:
https://www.925-1000.com/Fgerman_marks_a1884_9.html
And here:
https://www.925-1000.com/Fgerman_marks.html
Your shooting trophy was made here (the mark is cropped to the right).
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Re: German Silver hunter trophy

Postby rgutierrez » Sat Apr 11, 2020 5:00 am

Thank you so much. I´m realy excited with the findings. I found this mark in other object that seems to me is the same that is blurred in the cup. ImageImage. Also I don´t know what is this.

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Re: German Silver hunter trophy

Postby AG2012 » Sat Apr 11, 2020 5:21 am

No,it is something completely different;as far as I can tell it is the mark of WMF Württembergische Metallwarenfabrik (upside down).Compare with full mark (your mark is on the right).Very famous, but not silver.
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Re: German Silver hunter trophy

Postby rgutierrez » Sat Apr 11, 2020 5:24 am

OK. Thank you again. Regards from Colombia


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