Laurel wreath German state/city mark mystery

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ilovespooning
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Laurel wreath German state/city mark mystery

Postby ilovespooning » Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:25 am

Hi there. We have two mystery marks on a large tablespoon. The first is a laurel wreath and the second is less clear (possibly a shield). Was found with fork with same monogram (RR) and pattern with “13” loth standard indicated. Any help would be appreciated as we have not been able to make progress in identifying the two marks. Thanks!
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Re: Laurel wreath German state/city mark mystery

Postby Theoderich » Sat Feb 22, 2020 9:04 am

ilovespooning wrote: Was found with fork with same monogram (RR) and pattern with “13” loth standard indicated.


lets have a look to this fork


I have never seen the maks on your spoon

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Re: Laurel wreath German state/city mark mystery

Postby ilovespooning » Sat Feb 22, 2020 2:26 pm

Theoderich wrote:
ilovespooning wrote: Was found with fork with same monogram (RR) and pattern with “13” loth standard indicated.


lets have a look to this fork


I have never seen the maks on your spoon


Thanks Theoderich for your interest. We wonder if it is a stemmed flower on the shield. We also wondered if the laurel wreath was a French mark but then why would it be paired with a loth fork.

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Re: Laurel wreath German state/city mark mystery

Postby Joerg » Sat Feb 22, 2020 3:28 pm

Hi
JJ in this font is Johasearch for >n Jakob Jezler from Schaffhauisen, Switzerland. Sill in Business, search for Jezler in this forum.
I do not see a Connection to your spoons posted.
Regards, Jörg

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Re: Laurel wreath German state/city mark mystery

Postby Joerg » Sat Feb 22, 2020 3:30 pm

Sorry, something went wrong writing this, here again:
Hi
JJ in this font is Johann Jakob Jezler from Schaffhauisen, Switzerland. Sill in business, search for Jezler in this forum.
I do not see a connection to your spoons posted.
Regards, Jörg

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Re: Laurel wreath German state/city mark mystery

Postby ilovespooning » Sat Feb 22, 2020 3:49 pm

Joerg wrote:Sorry, something went wrong writing this, here again:
Hi
JJ in this font is Johann Jakob Jezler from Schaffhauisen, Switzerland. Sill in business, search for Jezler in this forum.
I do not see a connection to your spoons posted.
Regards, Jörg


Thanks Jörg this is really helpful. This leads me to believe the spoons could be Swiss as well. I did find a Swiss shield with flowers for the city of Rapperswil but much older. Any thoughts on this?

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Re: Laurel wreath German state/city mark mystery

Postby ALEKS » Sat Feb 22, 2020 10:52 pm

Looks like France.
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Re: Laurel wreath German state/city mark mystery

Postby ilovespooning » Sun Feb 23, 2020 5:25 pm

ALEKS wrote:Looks like France.
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Thanks Aleks that is really interesting!! We have been looking into French marks since your post, and I also see that Montpellier used the wreath as a hallmark which may look slightly closer to the mark on the spoon than the Paris mark. However, I wasn’t able to find as much detail as you did with your resources. Would you mind checking Montpellier and the wreath mark in your resources??


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