Dutch or German piano snuff box?

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Dutch or German piano snuff box?

Postby needy » Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:25 pm

Would this be Dutch maybe Jan Van Geelen 1785 or is it German. Doesn't seem like Hanau Silver. Any info would be great.
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Re: Dutch or German piano snuff box?

Postby oel » Fri Jun 20, 2014 3:14 pm

Hi,

Jan van Geelen his maker's mark; dove in a circle. The maker’s mark on the piano appears to be a swan, not a dove, without circular cartouche. The piano has no Dutch guild city mark or any other valid Dutch hallmarks. I believe it to be pseudo/fake marks and perhaps made recently.



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Re: Dutch or German piano snuff box?

Postby needy » Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:39 pm

Thank you oel. Probaly German silver Alloy. It was highly oxidized like 800 silver. The swan does not look like J. Kurz or Scleissners Hanau marks. The N looks similar to Gebruder Gutgesells however he does not show swan mark. I will try to research further or someone else may know maker.


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