European marks

[Jag]

I'm very curious where this is from and how old it is. Hoping for some help.

[Hose_dk]

Typical Hanau pseudomarks look for it here. http://www.925-1000.com/Fgerman_hanau_marks_01.html

[oel]

Hi,

Check J.D. Schleissner & Sohne.

Oel.

[Jag]

My first piece of Hanau. And from Schleissner & Sohne - very cool. It looks hand-done, even though it was made much later than it is pretending to be. I don't suppose there is any way to determine whether it is early or late in that companies time span (from 1817 to the present)? It looks like they started to add the silver percentage (800 or whatever) at some point - does anyone know when that would have been?

[Qrt.S]

Using promille in fineness marks for gold and silver started in Europe in late 19th century. In Germany the year is 1884.

[Jag]

Thank you. Then with that info this must have been produced in the 1817-1884 time range.

[Hose_dk]

no you cannot make that conclusion. (when 800 missing the before) That would be a mistake.
What one can conclude is that when 800 is there its after.

My feeling is after 1900. Should I make a guess it would be 1950ties.

[Qrt.S]

I disagree dear hose_dk. There is a requirement in Germany that after 1884 every registered manufacturer of gold and silver objects should mark their items with their maker's mark, fineness mark and the obligatory National Mark German Silver Mark, the crescent moon and crown. I don't see those marks here and therefore Jag can make his assumption of the time span.

[Hose_dk]

That sounds logical.

However Hanau had specia law, wonder how they adopted half moon and crown

[oel]

Hi All,

Made end 19th century or early 20th century. Hanau had its own rules as a free trade city; forget the crown and crescent moon, the imperial law of 1888 abolished official stamping by wardens in all of Germany. From then on every producer stamped his own wares and used guaranty marks for the required silver content. This again put the stamping methods of the Hanau silver industry within the framework of the law. For more information see;
http://www.ascasonline.org/articolo13.html
http://www.ascasonline.org/articolox15.html


Oel.