Beaker made from a Thaler

[Granmaa]

This is a little beaker made from a thaler (silver coin). It says as much on the bottom along with what I presume to be a silversmith's name, because of the anvil and hammers design. It's difficult to read, but I think it's Geltiben or Geteiben.

I think if anyone knows the silversmith, then where he works will be quite likely to be the city embossed on the beaker itself.

Miles

[Theoderich]

Dear Miles,
there is no silversmith name

GETRIBEN (getrieben = maked or driven out of a Thaler)

[Granmaa]

Thank you, Theoderich.

What a pity. Have you seen this stamp before?

Miles

[Hose_dk]

I am surprices that they bothered to make this mark. When makin a stamp - we should suspect it to be used again and again.
Normally when a coin is used - you dont set marks (punch laddles from UK) (or when used as raw materials)

Could we assume that this Thaler mark is used very late in time??? ie around 1880-1900??

[Granmaa]

It's possible that the city is that of Augsburg where I believe they made these coins.
The buildings are quite similar.

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[Joerg]

Dear Miles

I think it is a view from Munich, the Theatinerkirche. Check here a picture from Wikipedia:
http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?tit ... 0322193538"
In English: Theatine Church

I am quite certain. In front of the curch is the city wall visible. Munich started to tear down its fortification soon after the year 1800. I think the view represents the status of the 18th century. I do not think your beaker is made after 1800.
It must be a kind of a souvenir. It is made rather crude, and they point out it is made from a Thaler. This could serve two purposes: First, it indicates the minimum material value and is a couriosity, motivates "tourists", maybe pilgrims to the Theatine Church, to buy it.
If it is made of a Thaler of the 18th century it should weight around 28 grams.

Kind regards

Jörg

[Joerg]

Digging a bit deeper in the history of the church I read in the German Wikipedia that after 1765 the current existing rococo facade was added to the church. The picture on the beaker shows the church without this facade. I conclude it resembles the situation before 1765.

Regards

Jörg