Knight of the grave of Maximiliaan of Austria

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Knight of the grave of Maximiliaan of Austria

Postby zilverik » Sun Aug 07, 2011 11:13 am

Hi,

I have seen a picture that this knight was one of the watchers over Maximiliaans of Austria's grave. And this is probably a copy in silver (ivory head, coloured stones in the base). A souvenir? How old could this statue be? Does anyone knows that statue?
One mark (most right) is a Dutch controlmark used for items that come into the market again.
The middle mark is a leaf. I do not know what country. I think maybe Germany. Or maybe Austria?
The left mark I cannot figure out.
Anyone can?

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Zilverik

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Re: Knight of the grave of Maximiliaan of Austria

Postby oel » Sun Aug 07, 2011 4:00 pm

Hi Zilverik,

Your gilded knight in armor could have been made in Germany and perhaps in the Hanau area. Your model could have been made around the first quarter of the 20th century. Although I have seen models with London import marks of around the turn of the 19th century.
I have two in my collection one bearing Hanau markings for Neresheimer and the other French pseudo marks. Both have import marks for London, for the year 1925 & 1928. Most of the models I have seen have pseudo marks and/or are marked 925 or only marked with ‘sterling’. The models made in Hanau are of a very high quality and care for the details. Italy is also known for silver models. Most auction house describes them as: Continental silver and ivory faced model of a Knight. My knight is a silver and ivory faced model of King Henry IV. I have been told that some of the models were made on request by the British upper class and scholars. The models were used as a table and or conversation piece about British history and of course to show off.

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Oel

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Re: Knight of the grave of Maximiliaan of Austria

Postby zilverik » Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:34 pm

Hi Oel,

Thank you very much for this very usefull information. I could not find the mark on this site with the Hanau marks. But maybe it is Hanau and this mark is not (yet) in that list. This statue is very well made in an oldfashioned way and looks great, but not very old (that is: not 18e century). By the way, how do you know that one of your statues is bearing French pseudo marks? Till now I have not found information about French pseudo marks. Where did you find that information?

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Zilverik

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Re: Knight of the grave of Maximiliaan of Austria

Postby oel » Mon Aug 08, 2011 3:22 pm

Hi Silverik,

Good question herewith the thread:
viewtopic.php?f=24&t=20989&p=48736&hilit=oel#p48736
Research on the Lady revealed we are looking at Princess Edith of England, wife of Otto I, the Great later, King of Germany and Holy Emperor.

‘Dinio’ has not replied back, so I have assumed we are looking at French pseudo marks, to imitate the marks of: Salins 'généralité' in the French coinage jurisdiction of Besancon. However the markings could be Hanau area.

I wrote; made for British upper class and scholars but better should be; made for the Continental and British upper class and scholars and the revival of interest of historical events. I also like to thank you for your page out the book of Citroen.

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Oel

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Re: Knight of the grave of Maximiliaan of Austria

Postby zilverik » Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:42 am

Hi Oel,

Thank you very much. With your clue that the models were used as a table and or conversation piece about history, I found the name of the knight. It is Theodorik the Great.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodoric_the_Great
I agree with you that it is continental, probably early 20e century. Maybe Italian indeed. I only have Italian marks as found in Tardy and on this site. Who knows there are more marks? And there is maybe that leaf on the bottom of the statue I cannot find till now.
Very interesting information from Dinio. Also about the books. Some I did not know of the existence.

Regards,

Zilverik


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