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Help w/ German silver mark on salt cellar

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 8:46 pm
by jackk
I need help with a German silver mark on salt cellar. It looks like a rooster. Can this be an Ilmenau mark?

Thanks!
Jack

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Re: Help w/ German silver mark on salt cellar

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 3:32 am
by Theoderich
I need a better image of the marks.

I have only one image of Ilmenau ( 1719 Jeremias Balthasar Wilhelmi)
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Meiningen in the 2nd half of 19. Cent.
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probably Frankfurt a.d. Oder (ca. 1730)
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Frankfurt a.d. Oder ca. 1780
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Frankfurt a.d. Oder ca. 1850
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Frankfurt a.d. Oder 2nd half oft 19. Cent.
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Re: Help w/ German silver mark on salt cellar

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 1:06 pm
by jackk
Here are better images.

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Re: Help w/ German silver mark on salt cellar

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 1:26 pm
by Theoderich
I thank You, it is better ( but not perfect - the contrast could be better ;-))

Ilmenau have not da cock - it is a hen (from the earl of Henneberg (hen-hill))
On your image it looks like a cock - like Frankfurt a.d. Oder ?
I do not find the makersmark in the Scheffler-book.

I will ask an expert.

Re: Help w/ German silver mark on salt cellar

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 1:45 pm
by Theoderich
there is a little chance, that Your piece is from Ohlau (Olavia)
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the hallmark of Ohlau was (L) for silver with 11 & 12 Loth,

and Hintze has wrote, in 1716 for silver with 14 Loth the hallmark was a cock, but
there is not known any piece from Ohlau with a cock as hallmark.

Re: Help w/ German silver mark on salt cellar

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:32 am
by Theoderich
Hallo jackk
I think I was wrong. I find in the book of Wolfgang Scheffler "Goldschmiede an Main und Neckar" the Hallmark of Kitzingen (#61a) (Unterfranken in Bawaria). The hallmark is a k under a bridge. The Maker is probably no.31 Georg Ludwig Langenha(h)n (long cock) *1727, Master ca. 1737.


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