German Marks - Initial JS

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larrywseale
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German Marks - Initial JS

Postby larrywseale » Mon Jul 05, 2010 4:30 pm

Hopefully the 3rd times a charm & I've followed all the rules so this post won't be deleted :-)

I have a German candelabra & I'm trying to get some info on the maker. I had an answer (thank you) to my 1st post but all I remember is that it was J____ S_____ from Schwäbisch Gmünd & then the post was deleted. Any help filling in the blanks is greatly appreciated.

I'd also like to date the piece if possible, perhaps only to the years the maker was working or maybe the century, pre-WWI/WWII, etc. Any info is more that I have now or can find. Finally, looking at the purity, the middle number wasn't stamped very clearly and I assumed it was a 3, as .835. When I looked at it again, it looks like it might be .855. Any thoughts? I've never seen a piece with a .855 stamp.

Thanks.
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Re: German Marks - Initial JS

Postby silverport » Tue Jul 06, 2010 6:27 pm

Candelabra made between the two WW by JS (ligature).

Hello Larry

The candelabrum is in his style a typical German »Thirty’s« - and maker’s mark I interpret as that of Josef Schmid, Schwäbisch Gmünd, Württemberg, Germany.

Maybe made for export, because the fineness is 835-1,000 — it’s very usual export fineness in Germany, for the export to surrounding countries.

Please observe of numeral 3’s horizontal top line the down left stroke 7 to the connection with 3’s lower part. The lower part of the 3 is also a little bit different to that of the 5. This kind of numeral 3 is one of the usual forms for 3 as well.

On the existence of Josef Schmid before WWI, and after WWII I haven’t found any notice.

Kind regards silverport

larrywseale
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Re: German Marks - Initial JS

Postby larrywseale » Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:25 am

Thank you very much!

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Re: German Marks - Initial JS

Postby silverport » Wed Jul 07, 2010 6:10 pm

Another example of German candelabra style from 1936-1938.

Hello Larry

The here shown candelabrum is model 13214 from Bruckmann, Heilbronn, from 1936-1938.

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Kind regards silverport

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Re: German Marks - Initial JS

Postby silverport » Wed Jul 07, 2010 7:13 pm

Another example of German candelabra style from 1938.

Hello Larry

Here I show you the Bruckmann, Heilbronn, catalogue from July 1938; with a similar style of candelabrum as yours.

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Kind regards silverport

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Re: German Marks - Initial JS

Postby flaubert » Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:52 am

Thanks to this post, I found out that we also own a candleholder by Josef Schmid (unfortunately there does not seem to be any literature on this maker). But this one looks more like 1920s style.
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Best
Flaubert

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Re: German Marks - Initial JS

Postby Bahner » Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:30 am

Hello, Schmid founded his workshop in 1890. In 1951 it was taken over by Karl Chrstian Kern, who renamed the company "Karl Chr. Kern". Under that name it still exists in Schwäbisch Gmünd. Best wishes, Bahner

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Re: German Marks - Initial JS

Postby flaubert » Sat Aug 14, 2010 4:14 pm

I just found another beautiful tee strainer with a mark quite similar to the above Josef Schmid mark. But here the J is much smaller and fits inside the S while on the other examples the J is the taller letter. Could this still be Josef Schmid? The handle is marked with JS and 835 on both sides. No half-moon and crown.

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Thanks!
Flaubert


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