Munich 1844 and 1860 the spoons

[Hose_dk]

I have bought these 3 spoons, two is 1860 and one is 1844 if I read marks correct. All made by MW - but who is he? and am I reading city mark correct?

Two of the spoons are similar and has engraving MR third spoon id the older one.
Thanks for help in advance.

[Theoderich]

I thank You Hose
I have no book about Munch silversmith but
could it be Michael Wimmer?
viewtopic.php?t=17763&highlight=wimmer

[blakstone]

Yes, according to Klein, this is another of Wimmer's marks.

[Hose_dk]

Thank you both. I found these 3 spoons among plated siver at a flee marked. I collect souveniers from places that I visited - and when I was in Munich I was to busy working - so I have been missing that city :-)
In Denmark knowledge of "un-Danish" marks is so common. No-one knows and thats why we ofte find spoons like these biedermeier among plated. In this case 3 the-spoons.
Thanks again for the name.

[Theoderich]

I thank You blakstone.
Is in the book a master [I.ST] from about 1861?
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@ Hose:
Yes - I also love flea markets and may God protect the ignorant. Unfortunately, there is less and less of them, what this page is probably guilty ;-)

[Hose_dk]

We winn some and we loose some. Here is a better picture.


talking of loosing bought 3 pieces of danish silver anno 1860 (around) last saturday. One was silver plated, one was in white metal and one might be silver :-(

[blakstone]

I.ST - Joseph Strasser (Master 1822; d. 1875)

[Theoderich]

I thank You blakston for this information.

@Hose,
the Number looks like (4)2, but the form of the mark ist not typical for the 1840s. Normaly the upper part is flat.

1841

1844

1852

[Joerg]

Hello Hose_dk and Theoderich

I have nothing to contribute to the original thread, but let me add the following to your flea market discussion:

As long as the things from flea market end up in a colletion and are preserved it is great.
Unfortunatly still a lot of old silver ends up in the melting pot. From time to time I go to a scrap silver trader and go through the scrap material. In a normal week he gets about 30-50 kg of scarp silver. Flatware from 1900 to 1950 is there in masses, spoons and forks from 1850 to 1900 are common (more than 12 usually), one or more spoons from 1800 to 1850 and sometimes spoons from before 1800. And this from just one or two weeks.
It is sad how much old silver still ends up in the melting pot.

This just aside the original discussion.

Jörg