Help needed with salter

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Help needed with salter

Postby wolfgang » Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:02 pm

Found this little salter (9X6,5cm) in Germany, but have no idea where to place the hallmarks. Will appreciate any help finding out about town and silversmith. Thanks in advance.
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help needed with salter

Postby wolfgang » Sun Nov 01, 2009 11:22 am

The first mark being very unclear, I tried another photo with different lighting... and hope it helps
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Re: help needed with salter

Postby Theoderich » Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:20 pm

Oh - it helps ;-)
it is Ludwigsburg in Baden-Württemberg Germany

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Help needed with salter

Postby wolfgang » Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:50 pm

Hi Theoderich, I have some doubts; if you compare the eagle of Ludwigsburg and the eagle of the salter (if it is an eagle): Ludwigsburg has 1 head, the salters eagle is doubleheaded. Could it be Neuss? doubleheaded eagle with a cross on the right side...
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Re: Help needed with salter

Postby Theoderich » Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:57 pm

Hallo Wolfgang
This eagel have only one head ;-)
Looking here - I took your mark.

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The mastermark ist NH - but I have no books about Masters of Ludwigsburg.

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Postby wolfgang » Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:53 pm

Hi Theoderich, thats at least convincing. Thank you so much.
But who can help with the maker? That little bit in Rosenberg is not giving any clue...
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Postby Theoderich » Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:48 pm

Yes Wolfgang - this is the problem. I have only the Rosenberg as a book with makersmarks.

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Postby wolfgang » Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:18 am

So I contacted the Württembergisches Landesmuseum in Stuttgart - they were extremely helpful: it is "Gold- und Silberarbeiter" Christoph Jacob Nikolaus (=Rufname) Häberle , son of "Silberarbeiter" Johann David Häberle born 1785 in Ludwigsburg, married 1811 and became widower in 1848. Stylistically the salter was made between 1811 - 1815.

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Postby Theoderich » Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:24 am

I helped you and now you help me - thank you Wolfgang :-)

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Postby Theoderich » Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:53 am

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Re:

Postby Theoderich » Sat Mar 12, 2016 5:22 pm

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there is an other makersmark Häberle
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or Haeberle
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but I am not sure - is it the same maker
Christoph Jacob Nikolaus Häberle?


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