Help ID Pre WWII German Silver Spoon J. Eichert?

[leslieglasser]

I am looking for information about some silver pieces belonging to a concentration camp survivor whose family was from Weseke Westfalen. The neighbors who had stored the family's valuables gave her back a few pieces after the war and we are curious about the dates and makers. The family had lived in Germany from 1750 on or earlier.

The first spoon looks like it says J. Eichert or possibly J Ficheri or Eicheri and has an 800 mark, a crown and half moon, and a phoenix hallmark. Any thoughts about age or maker?







There are other pieces in the same pattern (and several other patterns) and I'll do some more looking on the boards before I ask for help with those! Thanks for your expertise and help. LG.

[Theoderich]

In Germany after 1888 - halfmoon & crown + fines (800) was standard
looking there - You will find all about this (Bruckmann& Söhne - Heilbronn)
http://www.925-1000.com/Fgerman_marks_a1884.html

The pattern ist called " Augsburger Faden" - it is most common in Germany.

[leslieglasser]

Thank you, Theoderich. I now see that mark on several other pieces (minus the Eichert name) and will do some more looking and sorting before my next post. L.G.

[silverport]

Hello

In many cases of German objects in silver alloy after 1888, marked by crescent moon, imperial crown - and silver alloy in mil, e.g. 800:

If there is an additional name punch and they bear already maker's mark (most times a symbolic one e.g. in this case Bruckmann's eagle with widespread wings and left side look) = this additional name punch is local retailer's punch only (maybe a jewellers shop e.g. to remember you could order there necessary additions).

Some wholesaler's marked symbols too; e.g. XX = Wilhelm Müller (Berlin).

Kind regards silverport

[Bahner]

Hello, the only J. Eichert I came across was J. Eichert from Koblenz, listed in 1903-05 as court supplier and jeweller and in 1942 as retailer of jewels, gold- and silverware. Koblenz is not in the Westfalia region of Germany, but much more to the south. Still that Eichert could have been the supplier. I know from our own family silver that quite often silver was not bought from a local shop, but from a shop believed to be much more fashionable, in a bigger town, quite a distance away. Sometimes this shop had been recommended by relatives living there. This could have been the case here. Best wishes, Bahner

[leslieglasser]

Thank you both so much. Very useful information, much appreciated.

Leslie
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Hello, the only J. Eichert I came across was J. Eichert from Koblenz, listed in 1903-05 as court supplier and jeweller and in 1942 as retailer of jewels, gold- and silverware. Koblenz is not in the Westfalia region of Germany, but much more to the south. Still that Eichert could have been the supplier. I know from our own family silver that quite often silver was not bought from a local shop, but from a shop believed to be much more fashionable, in a bigger town, quite a distance away. Sometimes this shop had been recommended by relatives living there. This could have been the case here. Best wishes, Bahner

In many cases of German objects in silver alloy after 1888, marked by crescent moon, imperial crown - and silver alloy in mil, e.g. 800:

If there is an additional name punch and they bear already maker's mark (most times a symbolic one e.g. in this case Bruckmann's eagle with widespread wings and left side look) = this additional name punch is local retailer's punch only (maybe a jewellers shop e.g. to remember you could order there necessary additions).

Some wholesaler's marked symbols too; e.g. XX = Wilhelm Müller (Berlin).

Kind regards silverport