some Hamburg pieces

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Theoderich
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some Hamburg pieces

Postby Theoderich » Sun Jun 21, 2009 3:04 am

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ACK 1757
with a Z

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C.Müller 1867
with a Q

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Krumstro 1874
with a K or R

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Simmerlund
with a R

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Postby blakstone » Sun Jun 21, 2009 3:58 pm

Z/ACK, dated 1757
Z = Matthias Ernst Danckert, assayer 1749-1758
ACK = not shown in Schliemann, but almost certainly August Conradt Kohlmes II, Master 1733, died by 1803

Q/C. MÜLLER, dated 1867
This is not Hamburg, but nearby Altona, whose marks are all but identical. Unfortunately, the assayers there are not known with anywhere near the certainty of Hamburg.
Q = unknown assayer, working ca. 1855-1879
C. MÜLLER = Carl Ludwig Müller, trade concession 1838, died 1888

K or R/KRUMSTRO, dated 1874
I believe the assay letter is:
E/F = Johann Heinrich Jacob Wienecke, assayer 1857-1865
KRUMSTROH (the “H” is worn off here) = Heinrich Friedrich Krumstroh (1813-1876), Master 1842

R/SIMMERLUND, no date
Again, I believe the assayer letter has been mis-read and is really:
B = Ernst Friedrich Frank, assayer 1829-1857
SIMMERLUND = Johann Heinrich Friedrich Simmerlund (1807-1869), trade concession 1838


Hope this helps!

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Postby Theoderich » Sun Jun 21, 2009 4:40 pm

yes - Thank you blacksone
I hope, it is good for Toms Hamburg-Project.

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Postby admin » Sun Jun 21, 2009 5:08 pm

They are and will be included.
Thanks to both of you.
Tom

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Postby Theoderich » Sun Jun 21, 2009 5:27 pm

admin wrote:They are and will be included.
Thanks to both of you.
Tom


wait - i will try to make some better pictures

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Postby Theoderich » Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:00 pm

ack
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hespe
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HL (altona)
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krumstroh
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müller (altona)
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N.W.A.
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simmerlund
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WM
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hope it helps


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