Russian Milk Pot 18th Century unidentified mark

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grotheerw
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Russian Milk Pot 18th Century unidentified mark

Postby grotheerw » Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:46 am


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Postby Juke » Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:58 pm

Hi,

Your milk pot and the marks are not Russian 18th century, possibly German so it is in the right category under German silver.

Regards,
Juhana

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Postby blakstone » Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:39 pm

Yes, these are one again Hanau pseudo-marks ca. 1900. My research has enabled me to attribute these marks to J.D. Schleissner Söhne, although it is to be noted that Ludwig Neresheimer used a very similar - but not identical - set of marks.

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Postby WarrenKundis » Wed Sep 18, 2013 5:31 pm

blakstone wrote:Yes, these are one again Hanau pseudo-marks ca. 1900. My research has enabled me to attribute these marks to J.D. Schleissner Söhne, although it is to be noted that Ludwig Neresheimer used a very similar - but not identical - set of marks.


Dear Blakstone,

Do realize that this is a very old post but wanted to ask a follow up question on the surface quality of milk pot. It relates to two spoons I recently purchased then found through examination that they were cast and not hammered. The surface of the milk pot also appears to have that same rough pitted quality.

Question #1: Is cast or caste work actually silver or should I say potentially the same quality of silver, 800 or there abouts, that Neresheimer and others used in recreating earlier work? Or is it plate?

Question #2: relates to the presence of a capital N in a rectangle appearing on one of the two spoons I purchased that Neresheimer also used in conjunction with other marks and pseudo marks. It stands alone on this spoon, have been over it very carefully. Having walked back through seventeen pages of German silver posts, in only one case noted a remark that stated that a Munich city mark did indicate a silver content of 800. Is my memory correct in that case and if so can it be assumed that this capital N in a rectangle that alludes to Neresheimer indicate 800?

In my mind the answer is no and on those grounds plus the presence of cast elements I have returned both spoons to the seller. The second spoon on contained the Gothic letters FP or FD with much rougher cast elements through out. My apologies for not posting photographs, am still having trouble posting them from my iPad. Would very much appreciate your input if possible.

Warren


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