Coin Silver Sifter/Strainer - Need help with maker please

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andrewshane
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Coin Silver Sifter/Strainer - Need help with maker please

Postby andrewshane » Sat Dec 06, 2008 2:22 pm

I've had this sifter for some time now, but have had no luck id'ing the maker. Can anyone offer any assistance? I've checked all of my books and the marks section here, as well as many other online reference sites. Thanks.

Andrew

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Postby Hose_dk » Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:05 pm

the pattern (shell) look norwegian to me.
But it is a guess as I cannot read marks.

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Postby blakstone » Sat Dec 06, 2008 10:33 pm

Gottfried Koch (1804-1879; Master 1829) of Bremen, Germany. He, with Ludwig Bergfeld, founded the firm of Koch & Bergfeld in 1859; it still exists today.

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Postby silverfan » Mon Dec 08, 2008 5:50 am

Koch & Bergfeld was founded in 1829 not 1859

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Postby blakstone » Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:03 pm

Well, yes and no. The company traces its foundation to 1829 when Koch began working. But Bergfeld did not become a partner - nor the name "Koch & Bergfeld" - until 1859. I made the distinction because the mark here indicates this item was made before 1859, under Koch's name alone.

"Bergfeld" was actually two men, probably brothers: Ludwig Wilhelm Bergfeld (Master 1856) & Georg Gottfried Daniel Bergfeld (Master 1859); both were partners in the firm, and both were former apprentices of Koch.

I did make a mistake, though. Although Koch began working in 1829, he did not become a master in the Bremen guild until July 1830.

Hoping this clears things up!

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Postby admin » Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:45 pm

Correction noted and information added
http://www.925-1000.com/Fgerman_marks_a1884_2.html

Thanks, Tom

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Postby Bahner » Fri Dec 19, 2008 2:37 am

Hello, actually Koch and Bergfeld became partners in 1834, since then it was called K & B (Löhr is not precise on this point). Since 1865 owners were the sons of the founding fathers: Ludwig Koch, Georg Koch, Gottfried Bergfeld and Georg Bergfeld. The four owners were all related, as the two founding fathers had married two sisters. Best wishes, Bahner


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