Marks on golden Ring russia (moskow) after 1958

[tworsch]

Hello,

unfortunatly I cant show pictures of a russian ring I found and bought. The hallmarks are as tiny, as it took a long time to identify them.

The golden ring has three marks.
One of them I identified as the mark of moskow after 1958 583 gold.
It is a "delta" with the star including hammer & sickle and 583.
Gold is prooved.

the second halmark is a two signs: z5
I have no idea what this could mean.

the third mark I am interested in is looking like: .7 (aw) (el) or .7 (dey) (el)

aw=
dey =
el=

Can anybody help me?

[oel]

Hi,

Russia domestic gold and platinum hallmarks 1958-1994.
The main hallmark with the core image of the Soviet star with the hammer and sickle, and the numerical gold fineness as 583. The assay office mark in the form of a Cyrillic letter added to the lower left of the star. Probably not as you say a ‘delta’ but the Cyrillic letter Dey, for Lvov, Ukraine or the Cyrillic letter El for St. Petersburg. If it is .7 followed by the Cyrillic letter Dey or El. It is the date mark for 1987 and Z5 would be a maker’s identification mark.
I.e MM(M) 3 or maker’s mark, followed by the figure 3, is for the year 1953 or 1963
MM(M) 8 or maker’s mark, followed by the figure 8 ,is for the year 1958 or 1968
7 MM(M) or figure 7, followed by the maker’s mark, is for the year 1977
.9 MM(M) or dot figure 9, followed by the maker’s mark, for the year 1979
.9 ? MM(M) or dot figure 9, ? = regional assay office symbol, maker’s mark, the year 1989
: 9? MM(M) or double dot 9,? = regional assay office symbol, maker’s mark, the year 1999
After 2000, only two letters for the maker’s mark
? 0 MM or? = regional assay office symbol, 0 for the year 2000, followed by maker’s mark
3?MM or Cyrillic capital letter Zey for the year 2007, ?= regional assay office symbol,
Followed by the maker’s mark.

Bit complicated but I gave it a try so we both learn from it, and if I am wrong do not worry someone will correct the information, and we both learn even more.

Regards,
Oel


Regards,
Oel

[tworsch]

Many thanks, oel!

The ring starts to have a history.
With your information I would say its a ring from 1987. And its from Moskva.

The ring has three marks.
The first: "delta" + Star with s & h + 583 means Moskva, Russia, 583 gold.
It is really a delta. Very tiny, but delta!

The second: .7 (aw) (el) or .7 (dey) (el) means 1987 from aw el / dey el maker

The third: z5 also Makers Mark? factory?

Maybe someone here knows dey el / aw el or z5.
But your information was great! Many thanks! With the year it is easier to find out who worked at this time with this marks.

[oel]

Many thanks to Tworsch, but we still have more questions.

Russia domestic gold and platinum hallmarks 1958-1994.
The main hallmark with the core image of the Soviet star with the hammer and sickle, and the numerical gold fineness as 583. The assay office mark in the form of a Cyrillic letter added to the lower left of the star. Beginning in 1965, the core image of the Soviet star was changed. The earlier star core image, which was depicted in high relief, was redesigned so that the raised center of the star was recessed, leaving an outlined relief to the frame of the star, hammer and sickle in a shovel frame-shape hallmark. The Cyrillic letter added to the lower left star for Moscow assay office symbol, in 1958 is the Cyrillic letter M (EM), no more Delta. The Cyrillic letter added to the lower left star Д (DEY), in 1958, is for Lvov Ukraine, and the Л (EL), in 1958, is for Leningrad/St. Petersburg.
The Russian Date & Maker’s Mark Character Chart says the .7 for 1987, is followed by the Regional Assay Office Symbol, and the Maker’s Mark or .7 ?(RA symbol) MM(Maker’s mark).
Perhaps some day some one will complete this delta puzzle.

Regards,
Oel

[Qrt.S]

This is confusing. There is no such Soviet mark that includes a Greek delta ( a triangle) and the star with the hammer and sickle at the mentioned time frame 1958-1994. There is also no such letter as Latin Z in the Cyrillic alphabet. Z 's mark is З in that alphabet. Could you specify what you mean with "z".

The only thing which seems to be correct is 583 that is 583/1000, quality mark in promille for about 14 karats (gold). Oel is also correctly stating that .7??? indicates the year 1987. It should be followed with 2 or 3 additional marks, what marks are they? But the rest is a pie in the sky. In order to solve the problem we need to see at least a detailed drawing of all marks, if you cannot show a photo, of the mark and don't forget the cartouche/shield.

Have a nice evening

Qrt.S