Silver? Spoons w/Dog's Head & 750 marks ~Anyone???

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veebeez
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Silver? Spoons w/Dog's Head & 750 marks ~Anyone???

Postby veebeez » Tue May 10, 2005 12:20 am

Hi! I have bought six spoons which appear gold, but I was told they are silver with gold wash, not sure. The marks are a dog or wolf's head in a triangle and 750 and other marks that are hard to make out. Any help greatly appreciated.
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Postby Waylander » Tue May 10, 2005 3:54 am

You are in the wrong forum my friend. They look like Continental (Europe) marks, but I don't recognise them. They certainly are not English. Try reposting in a more appropriate forum.

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Postby Waylander » Tue May 10, 2005 4:27 am

I hasten to add, and this is something that I am a little embaressed about forgetting, that the markings seem to be similar to those of the Australian Gold and Silversmithing Guild. This is their website.

http://www.apecs.com.au/guild/index.htm

The 750 mark would indicate that it's 18K gold.

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Postby veebeez » Tue May 10, 2005 6:46 pm

Thank you! I'm truly clueless about this stuff~ I Hope they're 18k!
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Gold hallmark forum

Postby bortolot » Thu May 12, 2005 10:25 am

Is there any possibility that a gold hallmark forum could be created on this website? There doesn't appear to be a forum that addresses this topic elsewhere on the web, and certaily there appears to be some interest out there.

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Postby admin » Mon May 16, 2005 12:52 pm

Hi Veebeez,

Scanning through Tardy's "Poincons d'Or", I came across, what I think is, your "animal head in triangle" mark. If it is clearly a horse's head, Tardy shows it as a Polish gold mark used after 1931. Can you post a larger photo?

Hi Bortolot,

Good idea, I'll create a gold marks forum and move this one to it as its first topic.

Regards, Tom
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gemsdiver
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Gold marks on spoons

Postby gemsdiver » Wed May 18, 2005 6:33 am

Please bear in mind that some silver was hallmarked 750 in Europe up until the 19th century.
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Thanks!

Postby bortolot » Wed May 18, 2005 9:25 am

Tom,

Thanks for making the gold hallmark forums!

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Postby antiquer » Wed May 18, 2005 1:04 pm

Please bear in mind that some silver was hallmarked 750 in Europe up until the 19th century.

Hi Andy,

Interesting point. I'm aware that .750 was used in some countries as an acceptable silver standard, such as 12 loth silver in Germany and Poland. I know they used a 12 mark to indicate the purity.
But, I can't think of any examples that actually used a numerical 750 as the actual mark. Always thought the thousandths decimal system was a fairly late development. Can you clarify with an example of where and when silver was marked with 750 in Europe or let us know what your info source is?

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Veebeez,
Any chance of a larger image of the marks? It would really help.

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Postby gemsdiver » Thu May 19, 2005 8:32 am

Hi AinA

I bought a silver statuette some years ago in Germany and it was hallmarked with the 750 mark as opposed to the 12 Loth mark more commonly used.It was definately silver as well. Saying that, I do hope that the spoons are 18k gold,it would make the buy just that much nicer,don´t you think?
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Postby Belior » Sat May 28, 2005 1:19 pm

Hi AinA,

the statements are correct.
The 12 Loth corresponds 750/1000 silver.
The designation 750 was used from ca. 1880 to 1886.
Then the designation 800 was used.

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Postby antiquer » Sat May 28, 2005 6:32 pm

Helmar,
Thank you, that is a piece of information that I am glad to have.
Considering the date of its use, am I correct in thinking it could be seen with German Town marks, as well as the later national Crown & Crescent mark?

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Postby Waylander » Sat May 28, 2005 8:05 pm

Andy

Thanks for the information regarding 750 hallmarking for silver. As an English Silver collector, it's news to me. You are never to old to be proved wrong ;)

Cheers

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