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Trip Konig oder Chuck Koenig?

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 4:41 pm
by Traintime
This tomater slice from Gorham seems a good sample to raise the ugly question of tell-tales. Kings (Three) III and King Charles appear extremely similar. A catalog for 1909 shows added acanthus-like work around some of the Chuck wares including the slice. That's all missing on this one. Also notable here is the lack of patent dating marks that have been noted on that later pretender to the throne. Any Gor-monkees that can throw additional peels on this banana pile?

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Re: Trip Konig oder Chuck Koenig?

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:41 am
by dragonflywink
Not sure I understand your question, the item you show appears to be a tomato or cucumber server in Gorham's 'King George' pattern, introduced in 1894 - I'm not familiar with a 'King Charles' pattern, and 'Kings III', introduced circa 1885, while somewhat similar, is not at all the same as 'King George'...

~Cheryl

Re: Trip Konig oder Chuck Koenig?

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:06 am
by dragonflywink
King George:
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Kings III:
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~Cheryl

Re: Trip Konig oder Chuck Koenig?

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:37 am
by Traintime
Oops, did I promote another Charles...that's what happens when you lose your mind. Should have been George. Thanks Cheryl for the detail photos which are an improvement over this: https://www.sterlingflatwarefashions.co ... ham11.html
So, why is the additional detail, beyond the handle and around the edges, shown for the King George tomato server in the 1909 catalog page not on this sample piece? Were there two versions?

Re: Trip Konig oder Chuck Koenig?

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:43 am
by Traintime
Ah! The piercing details are different. Maybe this isn't the tomato server?

Re: Trip Konig oder Chuck Koenig?

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:49 am
by dragonflywink
The image in the link for 'Kings III' is actually "King George' - and pieces can change over the years, since you mention the patent date isn't present on yours, it's most likely later production...

~Cheryl