Tiffany nut bowl hallmark

[boysilmet]

I've looked all over the web to try and come up with an approximate date on this Tiffany nut bowl. I've enclosed pictures of the piece and the hallmark and comments would be appreciated.

[dragonflywink]

Hi ~ Welcome to the forums. You might check here (should date to between 1882 and 1891): http://www.925-1000.com/Tiffany_Date_Code.html

~Cheryl

[boysilmet]

Thank you Cheryl. I did look at that website earlier this week, but it doesn't have any info that might help me out.

[dragonflywink]

Sorry - thought you were were trying to date the piece, and that is the purpose of the page (part of this website), it has a list of Tiffany Directors/Presidents marks, showing the "M" on your piece as dating from 1873-91; further down on the page is a list of pattern numbers, the pattern #6853 on your piece indicates it would have been first produced in1882 - so your dating window would be, as already said, 1882-91.

~Cheryl

[boysilmet]

Sorry for being so aggravatingly slow. I did pick up the original date of the pattern number, but didn’t know how long the pattern was produced as Tiffany often produces a pattern for protracted periods (as explained on the page). The page also states that the examples shown include only John C. Moore’s mark, but that’s confusing as the 10 example marks, A through J, also contain the letters T, G, and L with no M displayed in some of them. Those marks that do include an M span a period in excess of 100 years, so I can only conclude that the shape of the M must be the determining feature in establishing the date, although this is purely conjecture on my part as that isn’t stated anywhere on the page. Thank you for your help and again, let me apologize for being so slow to pick up on things.

[dragonflywink]

There is a legend for the Directors/Presidents marks "A-J" directly below the pictures, yours is shown in picture "D", it was used when Edward C. Moore was the Director of Design - after he died in 1891, the mark was changed to Charles Tiffany's "T" (pic "E"), so your piece would date no later than 1891 and since the pattern number falls in between the first numbers used in 1882 and 1883, it should date no earlier than 1882. The comment in the text about John C. Moore's mark, is referring to the other manufacturers who produced silver for Tiffany before their exclusive arrangement with the Moores and the eventual incorporation of their shop into Tiffany. You might look into Carpenter's book, Tiffany Silver, but it won't really have anything different in regard to the dating on your particular item - good read though.

~Cheryl