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cntryjewell
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Unable to track down what this means

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Hello everyone,

I'm new here, and have been scouring the website and the forums but I'm not finding marks that are like what I have on a serving tray that was in a storage unit that my husband and I bought. I think I've managed to determine the assay offices of Birmingham and Sheffield, but the mark to the far right has me baffled as well as the numbers below the marks and above the Sheffield name.

Any insight into what all of this means, date, etc would be greatly appreciated.
https://www.lenstripping.com/Sheffield- ... -vstQfZB/A
https://www.lenstripping.com/Sheffield- ... -VwKGBdr/A

Julie
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Re: Unable to track down what this means

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Hi Julie,

Welcome to the Forum.

Please embed your images.

Trev.
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Re: Unable to track down what this means

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Hi Trev,

Sorry about that. I had to change my settings on my website. Not sure if this is going to work or not...when I click preview the post it just shows the word image in place of where the links are.

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Re: Unable to track down what this means

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Let's try this on my Flickr accountt instead...

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https://postimages.org (choose 'Share', then copy the 'Hotlink for forums' code) is recommended. Do not use Photobucket or Dropbox.

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Re: Unable to track down what this means

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Ahhh! Hallelujah! I think this might work. Thank you Trev!

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Re: Unable to track down what this means

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That's great. The tray is silver plated and made a long way from Sheffield. It is a product of the Pairpoint Mfg. Co. of New Bedford, Massachusetts.

See: viewtopic.php?f=38&t=25849&hilit=pairpoint

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Re: Unable to track down what this means

Post by cntryjewell »

Wow! Well that's at least a step closer to knowing more about the piece, and what that P meant.

Is there a way to use the number stamp to date it? And, looking through the link you gave, I'm not seeing mention of Sheffield, so I'm confused as to why it has the Sheffield name and, what looks like, the assay marks for Birmingham and Sheffield on it.
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Re: Unable to track down what this means

Post by AG2012 »

Hi,
Silver plate manufacturers used pseudo marks for commercial reason.
The marks resembled British sterling hallmarks, Birmingham anchor and Sheffield crown being the most popular. They also invented a wide range of marks to promote sale.
Serial number, internal factory number cannot help in dating.
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Re: Unable to track down what this means

Post by cntryjewell »

Thanks for that. Is there anyway to obtain a date (or come close to one)? Now that I have a manufacturer I'm looking through the different styles of marks made on pieces...most of what I'm finding resemble marks that are probably more clearly aligned with their later years before they closed because their name is listed or it says Made in the USA or even just the way the marks are made. I'm not yet finding anything style wise similar to what's on my tray/platter....so I was just curious if there is a way to date where in the life of the company this might have been made.
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