Partial Hallmarks on Covered Sugar Bowl

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kh65
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Partial Hallmarks on Covered Sugar Bowl

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Hello All,

I acquired a 3-piece tea set that has partial hallmarks and what look like marks overlaid on other marks. There are also what appear to be intentionally made dents on some of the marks. I am attaching links to photos of the sugar bowl and its marks. In addition to the marks near the middle of the bottom, there is a small arrow in the lower right section of the second photo.

The overlaid marks and dents have me confused, so I'm hoping someone can explain them. I can add photos of the other 2 pieces and their marks if that would be helpful. Thank you!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/227bwvfr3rew7 ... 8.JPG?dl=0

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Re: Partial Hallmarks on Covered Sugar Bowl

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Hi,

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Re: Partial Hallmarks on Covered Sugar Bowl

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Thanks for helping Trev, I did as you suggested and the photos are below. I'm also adding the original text from my post.
-Ken

Hello All,

I acquired a 3-piece tea set that has partial hallmarks and what look like marks overlaid on other marks. There are also what appear to be intentionally made dents on some of the marks. I am attaching links to photos of the sugar bowl and its marks. In addition to the marks near the middle of the bottom, there is a small arrow in the lower right section of the second photo.

The overlaid marks and dents have me confused, so I'm hoping someone can explain them. I can add photos of the other 2 pieces and their marks if that would be helpful. Thank you!

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Re: Partial Hallmarks on Covered Sugar Bowl

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Hi Ken,

Thanks for embedding the images. Can you post a cropped close-up of the marks? Images of the other pieces and their marks may well be useful also.

Trev.
kh65
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Re: Partial Hallmarks on Covered Sugar Bowl

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Hi Trev,
Here are cropped images of the marks and photos of the other pieces. Thanks again for your help and let me know if you need anything else.
Ken

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Re: Partial Hallmarks on Covered Sugar Bowl

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Hi Ken,

We've seen somewhat similar marking, with several variations, many times on the forum. They all seem to stem from smaller American manufacturers working in the first half of the 20th century and they usually imitate early English hallmarks.

In your case we have a Lion Passant walking left, a star type mark and another. That third mark troubled me and it was only when I looked at similar examples of that type of marking that I realised it was the base of the Gothic letter 'A', which again is popularly found in these series of pseudo marks.

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Only wish I could pin-point an actual maker for you. Hopefully another member will add their opinion.

Trev.
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Re: Partial Hallmarks on Covered Sugar Bowl

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Thanks Trev, that gets me pointed in the right direction at least. Does anything you see indicate for sure whether it is silverplate or sterling?
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Re: Partial Hallmarks on Covered Sugar Bowl

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All similar markings that I have come across were struck on plated wares.

Trev.
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