Flask with R inside a keystone- looking to id

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Flask with R inside a keystone- looking to id

Postby Beccamb » Sun Feb 21, 2016 11:37 am

[url][https://instagram.com/p/BCDbLYFmdJN21vQKYLx44ROx4I-P_6tuhpv8y00//url]I have a glass flask that has been in my family. I think the bottom and lid are silver. The top has a stamp of a capital R inside a keystone- I don't find a similar mark online. Can anyone help?
https://instagram.com/p/BCDavZkmdIPGySfxjHTuRlorgdTMYDcGdb0bnk0/

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Re: Flask with R inside a keystone- looking to id

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Re: Flask with R inside a keystone- looking to id

Postby Beccamb » Sun Feb 21, 2016 11:52 am

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Im looking to identify the mark on this and also to see if it's silver.
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Re: Flask with R inside a keystone- looking to id

Postby dognose » Sun Feb 21, 2016 12:52 pm

Hi,

Welcome to the Forum.

C.F. Rumpp & Sons.

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C.F. Rumpp & Sons - Philadelphia - 1910

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Re: Flask with R inside a keystone- looking to id

Postby Beccamb » Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:28 am

Thanks, Trev!
So I think this was a PA railroad flask but the leather is gone. Thanks!!

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Re: Flask with R inside a keystone- looking to id

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Re: Flask with R inside a keystone- looking to id

Postby dognose » Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:37 am

Hi,

Welcome to the Forum.

To my knowledge the Roger's version of the mark was only used on flatware.

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C.F. Rumpp & Sons - Philadelphia - 1903

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C.F. Rumpp & Sons - Philadelphia - 1908

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Re: Flask with R inside a keystone- looking to id

Postby silverly » Sat Oct 20, 2018 10:49 am

From the USPTO site:

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Word Mark RUMPP
Goods and Services (EXPIRED) IC 018. US 003. G & S: BILLFOLDS, LETTER CASES, TOILET CASES, PHOTO CASES, PASS CASES, CARD CASES, AND KEY CASES. FIRST USE: 19450301. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19450301
Mark Drawing Code (3) DESIGN PLUS WORDS, LETTERS, AND/OR NUMBERS
Design Search Code 26.15.27 - Keystones
Serial Number 72240085
Filing Date March 3, 1966
Current Basis 1A
Original Filing Basis 1A
Registration Number 0831667
Registration Date July 11, 1967
Owner (REGISTRANT) EVANS-ARISTOCRAT INDUSTRIES, INC. CORPORATION NEW JERSEY 400-416 TRUMBULL ST. ELIZABETH NEW JERSEY
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Affidavit Text SECT 15.
Live/Dead Indicator DEAD

Not the exact mark we see on the flask, but it does show that Rumpp officially used an "R" in a keystone as part of their trademark.

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Re: Flask with R inside a keystone- looking to id

Postby Traintime » Sat Oct 20, 2018 2:06 pm

Beccamb wrote:Thanks, Trev!
So I think this was a PA railroad flask but the leather is gone. Thanks!!


The Pennsylvania Railroad was not alone in using the keystone...many firms employed the "Keystone State" emblem to show where they were based. PRR did employ a keystone without any letters at times, but if letters are present they should be "PRR" or "PC" (for the Pennsylvania Company, parent holding firm for the various corporate entities). Other lines controlled by the firm in earlier times had other marks like a star..it's complicated.


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