Need help identifying a mark on a 17C tea canitister

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Need help identifying a mark on a 17C tea canitister

Postby metc » Fri Jun 16, 2006 4:58 pm

I am seeking help in identifying the marks on a silver plated tea canister in the collection of the Museum of Early Trades and Crafts.

The six sided canister is decorated with thinly etched foliate and bird
designs. Etched inside a cartouche on one side is "1687" and "I.G.G".

Any information or ideas you can provide will be greatly appreciated.

Sandy

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Close-up of mark on lid (about 1 cm wide)
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Postby 2209patrick » Fri Jun 16, 2006 5:38 pm

The crossed keys symbol is very similar to ones used in Germany during the 17th century. These marks represented the towns of Liegnitz and Regensburg.
Also in the 17th century the Russian town of Riga used a similar crossed keys mark.
Can't help you on the mark to the right, maybe the maker's mark.
Wish I could have helped more.

Pat.

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Postby georgiansilver » Sat Jun 17, 2006 12:13 pm

Can't add to that but have to say what a lovely and rare item you have. Best wishes, Mike.

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Postby Hose_dk » Sun Jun 18, 2006 5:39 am

Keys are normally Italy the Vatican but also used otherplaces.

The keys looke exactly like Legnica in Poland (1600 - 1700) however
it is not the same (english word ??) shield in that Polish mark.

I also agree with Regensburg as a possibility, but the Polish mark is even more similar.

Regarding Riga - they used keys.
I think that it looks like one mark. And not two. The shape of the mark with the vertical line op/down - (hope that you can understand this) this shape looks very much like try to visit this link.
http://www.ceebd.co.uk/ceebd/sportsp.htm
It might be totally wrong but that was my first idea before I started looking in my books. A wild guess. Can you se the similarity?

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Postby admin » Sun Jun 18, 2006 4:01 pm

I believe that this caddy is pewter and no silver marks will apply.
Regards, Tom

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Postby admin » Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:29 pm

The mark may be for Leiden in the Netherlands, you may want to try a query here at the Dutch Pewter Society, they do have a sort of forum ->
http://www.tinvereniging.nl/

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Postby dragonflywink » Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:13 pm

Agree with Tom that this piece is pewter, marks are consistent with German pewter marks from the 17th and 18th century, the dated town mark would be for Regensburg, can't help with the maker's mark, don't find him in my meager pewter references.

Cheryl ;o)

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Postby admin » Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:37 am

I sent off a note with a link to the photos. Mr. Beekhuizen was kind enough to email a reply with definitive info.
Dear sir,

As an European pewter expert I can give You the following information.

Object: a pewter German so called 'Schraubflache'.

Mark: above the two marks the letter R for Regensburg

Left: crossed keys with date 1673 town mark from Regensburg

Right: makers mark with initials EG for: Emerich Güntzer (he came from Strassburg), master in 1673, in 1692 he was obliged to change his mark. So this object is before 1692.

This is not a tea canister, but a wine or beer flask.
I hope that this information will help You.

Yours truly,
Jan Beekhuizen

http://www.janbeekhuizen.nl/


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