The first box has a floral motif (very hard to see with all the tarnish):

It is marked with a shield divided into three parts. I can not make out the upper left mark (could be a rooster or a lion set at an angle), the second section holds crossed keys and the bottom, third section could be a 'P' or an 'F':

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The second box has a hinged lid with a carriage pulled by horses, 4 riders and is inscribed 'London' within the design:

The mark is a rather primitive, simple looking shield with crossed keys:

I can find no other marks on either box. I've searched marks til I'm dizzy so any help to send me in the right direction would be very much appreciated.