spoon identification

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silver72
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spoon identification

Postby silver72 » Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:35 pm

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Hello. My first time on the forum. Please help with identification of the hallmarks. I did try the main site, but could not find even the crown and E.P. mark. Why would someone put so many hallmarks on electroplate, if that is what it is. Thanks

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Postby 2209patrick » Wed Jan 28, 2009 6:51 am

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Hello and welcome.

Those are British silverplate marks.
Sorry to say, I don't know who used them.

Pat.

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Postby versilbertes » Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:50 pm

Hello silver 72
this is an old maker's mark from W. Hutton and Sons, Sheffield Norfolk Street, first registered in 1839. With the "crown" over the EP I can say it must be an items before 1897 - because than the "crown" was banned in the marking of electro plated articles.
Yours Christian

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Postby byron mac donald » Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:21 am

Hello Christian-

Cool! where did you discover that it is W. Hutton and sons? looks like it might be another mystery mark found! Do you have a reference of this mark somewhere?

Regards- byron

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Postby versilbertes » Sat Jan 31, 2009 12:38 pm

Hello Byron
I found this Mark in the Frederic Bradbury book "Old Sheffield Plate" from 1912, page 451. In the description of the company it's written that they changed the form of the letters about the 60's in the 19th century. They also changed the triangle to a beside "fleur de lie".
Greetings from a cold Munich, yours Christian

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Postby 2209patrick » Sat Jan 31, 2009 3:01 pm

I don't believe this is a W. Hutton and Sons electroplate mark.
It certainly was not used by them as an "Old Sheffield Plate" mark.

These marks are not in my 1987 edition of "Bradbury's Book of Hallmarks" first compiled by Frederick Bradbury.
This edition lists William Hutton's fused plate marks.

Shown below are William Hutton & Sons electroplate marks:
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Pat.

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spoon identification

Postby silver72 » Sun Feb 01, 2009 8:41 am

Thanks to all who replied to my first post on the forum. I gather from the responses that the hallmarks can not be identified individually, but are British. Is this a new group of silverplate marks not seen on the forum? Is there any other research that I can do to learn more about them. It looks like those that responded have plenty of research materials.


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