Could somebody help us identify if this Silver Godola is from Malta, or Naples?
We cannot fathom if the first symbol is the Maltese Cross, or something else ?
Also, if the Brooch is from Malta, we believe the Hallmark indicates that it dates to 1810-1826. Is this correct ?
We used this website:- http://www.silvercollection.it/DICTIONA ... MALTA.HTML
917 Silver Filigree Gondola
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Re: 917 Silver Filigree Gondola
MarkAnthony wrote:Could somebody help us identify if this Silver Godola is from Malta, or Naples?
We cannot fathom if the first symbol is the Maltese Cross, or something else ?
Also, if the Brooch is from Malta, we believe the Hallmark indicates that it dates to 1810-1826. Is this correct ?
We used this website:- http://www.silvercollection.it/DICTIONA ... MALTA.HTML
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Re: 917 Silver Filigree Gondola
[quote="MarkAnthony"]Could somebody help us identify if this Silver Godola is from Malta, or Naples?
We cannot fathom if the first symbol is the Maltese Cross, or something else ?
Also, if the Brooch is from Malta, we believe the Hallmark indicates that it dates to 1810-1826. Is this correct ?
We used this website:- http://www.silvercollection.it/DICTIONA ... MALTA.HTML
We cannot fathom if the first symbol is the Maltese Cross, or something else ?
Also, if the Brooch is from Malta, we believe the Hallmark indicates that it dates to 1810-1826. Is this correct ?
We used this website:- http://www.silvercollection.it/DICTIONA ... MALTA.HTML
Re: 917 Silver Filigree Gondola
Hi,
Whenever you see millesimal fineness (800, 830,917,925 etc) that always means newer production, i.e. very late 19th century, or more likely 20th century.
Regards
Whenever you see millesimal fineness (800, 830,917,925 etc) that always means newer production, i.e. very late 19th century, or more likely 20th century.
Regards
Re: 917 Silver Filigree Gondola
Hi Mark Anthony.
I feel AG is correct about his comments, if I may add my opinion ,this to me does not look like proper filigree work (fine silver wire work)
this piece to me looks to be a cast piece ,made probably from an original Filigree item used as a pattern.
Regards Guido.
I feel AG is correct about his comments, if I may add my opinion ,this to me does not look like proper filigree work (fine silver wire work)
this piece to me looks to be a cast piece ,made probably from an original Filigree item used as a pattern.
Regards Guido.
Re: 917 Silver Filigree Gondola
Hi Mark
An example of Italian Filigree work,as like all things the quality of the work always varies.
makers mark Giuseppe Battista Rota Genova 39GE 1935 -ceased between 1955-1971.
Regards Guido.
An example of Italian Filigree work,as like all things the quality of the work always varies.
makers mark Giuseppe Battista Rota Genova 39GE 1935 -ceased between 1955-1971.
Regards Guido.
Re: 917 Silver Filigree Gondola
Hello
I agree Mark's brooch is Maltese ,
I posted my box as an example of filigree work ,only.
Regards Guido.
I agree Mark's brooch is Maltese ,
I posted my box as an example of filigree work ,only.
Regards Guido.
Re: 917 Silver Filigree Gondola
Hi,
Regarding filigree; depends how you do it.Twisted wire,small spheres and other silver particles are arranged on asbestos plate, flux and powdered solder added,then everything heated with jeweler`s torch to the point silver gets red and solder melts. Skill is needed to create perfect silver lace, if more solder is applied you get what we see here; not perfect filigree,unlike Guido`s box, which is well made.
Regards.
Regarding filigree; depends how you do it.Twisted wire,small spheres and other silver particles are arranged on asbestos plate, flux and powdered solder added,then everything heated with jeweler`s torch to the point silver gets red and solder melts. Skill is needed to create perfect silver lace, if more solder is applied you get what we see here; not perfect filigree,unlike Guido`s box, which is well made.
Regards.