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750 Silver

Postby cjnps56 » Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:51 pm

During what time period did countries use 750 silver? And what countries used it? I have a very nice fibula crossbow brooch that is simply marked 750. It is designed with a dragon head. I'm trying to date it.
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Re: 750 Silver

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Re: 750 Silver

Postby AG2012 » Wed Sep 22, 2021 4:14 pm

Hi,
750 standard has been used for centuries (12Loth in German speaking countries),Prussia, Italy,Spain,Yugoslavia,Czechoslovakia,Romania,Hungary.
Millesimal fineness 750 parts of silver in 1000 indicates very late 19th century or later.
Show us the brooch; the clasp may help to date it. (C clasp or later variants).
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Re: 750 Silver

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Re: 750 Silver

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Re: 750 Silver

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Re: 750 Silver

Postby Bahner » Sat Oct 02, 2021 2:27 am

Hello, a German origin is possible. The mark 750 would imply a production after the metric system was introduced in the German States at the end of th 1850ies. After 1888 a maker would have used 800/1000 silver fine (or higher) rathern than the old-fashioned 750. So this gives a very rough time frame. IF this is German. Regards, Bahner

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Re: 750 Silver

Postby cjnps56 » Wed Nov 10, 2021 10:31 am

Bahner wrote:Hello, a German origin is possible. The mark 750 would imply a production after the metric system was introduced in the German States at the end of th 1850ies. After 1888 a maker would have used 800/1000 silver fine (or higher) rathern than the old-fashioned 750. So this gives a very rough time frame. IF this is German. Regards, Bahner


Thank you for your help. Does the 750 signify that the piece is 75% silver?

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Re: 750 Silver

Postby cjnps56 » Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:25 am

cjnps56 wrote:
Bahner wrote:Hello, a German origin is possible. The mark 750 would imply a production after the metric system was introduced in the German States at the end of th 1850ies. After 1888 a maker would have used 800/1000 silver fine (or higher) rathern than the old-fashioned 750. So this gives a very rough time frame. IF this is German. Regards, Bahner


Thank you for your help. Does the 750 signify that the piece is 75% silver? Also, wouldn't the Lot number 12 appear on the piece rather than the number 750 if it was from this time period?

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Re: 750 Silver

Postby cjnps56 » Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:27 am

cjnps56 wrote:
Bahner wrote:Hello, a German origin is possible. The mark 750 would imply a production after the metric system was introduced in the German States at the end of th 1850ies. After 1888 a maker would have used 800/1000 silver fine (or higher) rathern than the old-fashioned 750. So this gives a very rough time frame. IF this is German. Regards, Bahner


Thank you for your help. Does the 750 signify that the piece is 75% silver? Also, wouldn't the Lot number 12 appear on the piece rather than the number 750 if it was from this time period?

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Re: 750 Silver

Postby Bahner » Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:50 am

Hello, state control of the regulations concerning the fineness used was practically nonexistent in Germany from roughly 1860 onwards (possibly even earlier) to 1888. The maker decided what he wanted to use, whether it was the traditional and more common 12 or 13 for fineness in Lot or the more modern 750 (equals 75 % silver) or if he wanted to disregard the rules at all and used a much lower fineness like 10 Lot and stamped it accordingly. Regards Bahner


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