"Help please me identify, hallmark horse head"

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Пыль
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"Help please me identify, hallmark horse head"

Postby Пыль » Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:39 am

Good day to you! Help to understand the ownership of this thing,I only know that it was taken during the Second World War with someone from a very big military chiefs of the German Army,the skull is viewed 930 test,on the bones with the snake 750,and the clasp is stamped horse! Thanking you in advance!!!!!
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Re: "Help please me identify, hallmark horse head"

Postby Пыль » Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:32 am

Добрый день! Помогите разобраться в право собственности на эту вещь,я только знаю, что она была сделана во время Второй Мировой войны с кем-то из очень крупных военачальников германской армии,череп просмотрен 930 тест на костях со змеей 750,и застежка проштемпелеванный лошадь! Заранее благодарю!!!!! X

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Re: "Help please me identify, hallmark horse head"

Postby dognose » Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:44 am

Please embed your images, as very few people will click on links.

Trev.

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Re: "Help please me identify, hallmark horse head"

Postby Пыль » Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:46 am

dognose wrote:Please embed your images, as very few people will click on links.

Trev.
Я бы с удовольствием это сделал,Но у меня не получается!!!!!

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Re: "Help please me identify, hallmark horse head"

Postby Пыль » Fri Feb 03, 2017 7:49 am

dognose wrote:Please embed your images, as very few people will click on links.

Trev.
Удалите тему пожалуйста а я попробую сделать новую

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Re: "Help please me identify, hallmark horse head"

Postby Пыль » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:01 am

Доброго дня! Как Вы это сделали?))) Мне бы хотелось найти или узнать о том человеке (или родных его) кому эта вещь принадлежала.к.т я понимаю что это сделано на заказ.

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Re: "Help please me identify, hallmark horse head"

Postby dognose » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:03 am

Please converse in English.

Trev.

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Re: "Help please me identify, hallmark horse head"

Postby Пыль » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:10 am

Good day! How did You do it?))) I would like to find or learn about the man (or his relatives) to whom the thing belonged.as I understand it's made to order.

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Re: "Help please me identify, hallmark horse head"

Postby AG2012 » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:22 am

Hi,
I can understand you but this site is in English, please.
Copy image code and paste it here.
Even if custom made we`ll never know who the owner was - there is no personalization, whatsoever (no initials and let alone full name).
Hopefully, the maker will be recognized here.

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Re: "Help please me identify, hallmark horse head"

Postby Пыль » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:29 am

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Re: "Help please me identify, hallmark horse head"

Postby Пыль » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:31 am

Thank You Very Much!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: "Help please me identify, hallmark horse head"

Postby AG2012 » Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:27 am

The skull symbol of Memento mori ("remember that you have to die") was very popular through centuries (compare with Victorian skull and crossed bones watch fobs).
The use of “Totenkopf": most of the first SS were in the Freikorps, fighting for the preservation of German conservative values against liberalism and Bolshevism. The symbol of “dead head”, the Prussian type, was taken as a base. The SS chose that symbol not because they wanted to intimidate political opponents. In contrast, "Totenkopf" was considered to be a positive sign in Germany at that time. It was not a monopoly of the SS; the symbol was used in Wehrmacht, too. By 1934 the leadership of the SS created a new design of "Totenkopf" with different lower jaw for anatomical accuracy (which cannot be seen in the fob here, or impossible to execute for technical reason).
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Re: "Help please me identify, hallmark horse head"

Postby Пыль » Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:35 am

Please tell me! Where I should look for.to achieve true?

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Re: "Help please me identify, hallmark horse head"

Postby AG2012 » Fri Feb 03, 2017 10:07 am

Hi,
I suppose the provenance (WW II) is accurate,but probably tens of thousands were made at the time (not exactly the same but ``Totenkopf`` motif).
As said, there is no personalization, and it cannot be linked to a particular person, not even to any SS or military corps.
Btw. things like this are not custom-made, that would not be profitable for a jeweler (casting the skull for one customer).
Hopefully, the maker will be recognized here and that`s it.
Any keword to search the web would be an impossible mission.
Regards and have a nice day

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Re: "Help please me identify, hallmark horse head"

Postby Пыль » Sat Feb 04, 2017 2:20 am

Hello! well.about the skull clear.just do not understand about the bones with the snake,because it is a separate operation and test there is a different.


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