Ring (something to do with icons)

[Silver_surfer]

My mother bought this second hand silver ring from a retired jeweler who said this is a Russian 'icon ring'.
We don't practise orthodox relion and therefore don't really know anything about the background just thought the ring looked nice.

Can you experts tell what the seal could be; the local jeweller said it has a left-facing eagle's profile but I couldn't see it myself or take an adequate photo.
Stones are said to be Ural emerald.

Here are the fotos:

[Qrt.S]

Without better pictures of the marks there is almost nothing to tell other than yes, an orthodox can wear a ring like anybody else can, a wedding ring or a prayers' ring or whatever ring but.... ??
However, the marks do not in this light look Russian. Somehow I imagine seeing the Polish Lombard owl to the right in the last picture but I'm not sure at all.

[ValkyrieVixen]

Try taking the pic through a magnifying glass and in stronger light. Those tiny marks can be a real pain.

[Postnikov]

Hi -

there are no such rings (something to do with icons) in Russia. At least it could be silver...

Regards
Postnikov

[Silver_surfer]

Try taking the pic through a magnifying glass and in stronger light. Those tiny marks can be a real pain.

Thanks for the tip, it worked !



Seems to be an eagle but what could the other hallmark be.. .?

[dognose]

Hi,

Welcome to the Forum.

Take a look here to start: http://www.925-1000.com/Fportugal.html

Trev.

[Silver_surfer]

http://www.925-1000.com/Fportugal.html

Hi dognose and thanks for the link; seems to be a match with the eagle theme but also the marks under the eagle's head could be numbers :)

[Silver_surfer]

We have gotten the ring re-looked and the numbers under the eagle's head are 835 so it is portuguese silver.

-Thank you -

[Silver_surfer]

Is there anyone who could specify who or more interestingly when this ring was made

[Qrt.S]

Your ring is made in Oporto Portugal and between 1985 and the current day I would assume.

Rgds

Qrt.S

[silverport]

Ring ASSAYED in Porto, Portugal in 1985 or later.

Hello »Silver_surfer«

»Qrt.S« already found out and stated correct:

The here shown ring, made from silver of 835-1,000 fineness, is ASSAYED in Porto, Portugal in 1985 or later.

This Porto Assay Office’s Assay mark was introduced in 1985, for little items with only a small area for the punch.

In General:

Items which are being assayed on a several time, are always made before the time of assay!

The style of the ring was only one of many usual styles in Europe during the third quarter of the last century — but as always: Styles could be repeated … Moulds could be stored and reused …

So by the blurry images couldn’t be actually stated correct, when, where, by whom the item is maybe made.

I request you very kindly, to place a VERY CLEAR, but not a BIGGER image of the maker’s mark (that is the mark with the polygonal cartouche) — please explain also: What do you “see” inside of the cartouche (capital letter: which one of A-Z, or two? or more?; image: animal? composition? object?).

I hope you would be cooperative.

Kind regards silverport

[Silver_surfer]

Thank you all for your input, how disappointing that the ring is so young :(

[silverport]

Hello »Silver_surfer«

I hope that yours ego centred last commentary of today, isn't also a signal that you wouldn't contribute any more with a very CLEAR image of the maker's mark?

Please understand, that »925-1000« isn't founded only for you; but it is also made for future readers too.

We contributors donate a huge amount of thousands of hours, and also a huge amount of private money for reference literature ...

So I hope that on one of the next days I could see here a very CLEAR image of the maker's mark.

In advance I thank you there fore, and for yours comprehension too.

Kind regards silverport

[Silver_surfer]

Dear 'silverport' the pictures I have posted are the clearest I can take with my Canon 450D and a magnifying class so please have a little bit more understanding -thank you-

[silverport]

Hello »Silver_surfer«

Sorry there fore that I've spoiled yours X-mass dream.

Yes I understand novices as well - but I had before already you requested, to describe the contents of the maker's mark too.

Fore novices I repeat:

Please explain also: What do you “see” inside of the cartouche (capital letter: which one of A-Z, or two? or more?; image: animal? composition? object?).

Please explain at least what do you "see".

Well, I've suggested in another case, to make a drawing too: viewtopic.php?f=61&t=19420

Don’t forget: Greenhorns are the almost beloved clients of some times also Greenhorns too. By the blinds, the one with one eye is the “king”; as like in this case of a retired jeweller, who has seen an Eagles head looking LEFT.

I will not the only responsible there fore that you become with assistances of »925-1000« an over skilled collector - an enemy of Pseudo Antique dealers.

Now I've the impression that you like to shut down the case, and that you don't like to cooperate any more for reason you're disappointed?

But really, should we tell you, that yours ring is an icon — and some more fairy tales … Read e.g. the »Russian« section.

If you like fairy tales, then forget to enter any more »925-1000« - well, we know a lot, but not all.

Kind regards silverport