1905 Newcastle hallmark

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1905 Newcastle hallmark

Postby JoW » Wed Sep 08, 2010 1:12 am

Where can I find the early 1900s Newcastle hallmarks , dates and makers especially TJS. Thanks a million...Joe

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Re: 1905 Newcastle hallmark

Postby JoW » Wed Sep 08, 2010 2:09 am

ImageHere is a picture of the fob with the Newcastle markings and date 1905??

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Re: 1905 Newcastle hallmark

Postby dognose » Wed Sep 08, 2010 2:09 am

Hi Joe,

I'm afraid you're looking for the impossible, the Newcastle Assay Office closed in 1884.

See: viewtopic.php?f=38&t=15285

Are you sure it's the Newcastle mark that you're researching? Their mark is sometimes confused with that of Chester.

Regards Trev.

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Re: 1905 Newcastle hallmark

Postby JoW » Wed Sep 08, 2010 2:20 am

Yeah Trev, you are right. its actually Chester 1868 ..capital D for D***...thanks mate..
Joe

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Re: 1905 Newcastle hallmark

Postby dognose » Wed Sep 08, 2010 2:24 am

Hi Joe,

Our posts crossed. That is Chester, from what I can of the date mark, it appears to be 1930.

The maker was Thomas James Skelton of 86, Vyse Street, Birmingham.

It was quite common for Birmingham manufacturers to send their work to the Chester Assay Office, as Chester had a more up-market reputation.

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Re: 1905 Newcastle hallmark

Postby JoW » Wed Sep 08, 2010 10:17 pm

Trev.
The date mark E doesnt have the "ripple" base of the 1930 date , I still think its 1868...but i,m no expert.....regards Joe

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Re: 1905 Newcastle hallmark

Postby JoW » Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:56 am

G/day Trev....After thinking about it, the fob is not the date I wanted [1902-1909] So I might sell or swap it[it has a gold football on the front]...Joe

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Re: 1905 Newcastle hallmark

Postby dognose » Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:58 am

Hi Joe,

Try getting a clearer image of the marks so that we can be sure.

Trev.

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Re: 1905 Newcastle hallmark

Postby JoW » Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:14 am

Image ImageTrev...Here is the clearest I can get...Regards Joe

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Re: 1905 Newcastle hallmark

Postby dognose » Fri Sep 10, 2010 8:18 am

Hi Joe,

It still looks like 1930 to me, unless of course the mark is struck sideways which sometimes happens.

Skelton entered their mark at the Chester Assay Office in 1909, so it cannot be earlier than that date.

Can someone cast a fresh pair of eyes on this dateletter and offer an opinion?

Regards Trev.

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Re: 1905 Newcastle hallmark

Postby 2209patrick » Fri Sep 10, 2010 3:21 pm

Looks like the 1930 Chester E to me.

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Re: 1905 Newcastle hallmark

Postby dognose » Fri Sep 10, 2010 3:54 pm

Thanks Pat, it's much clearer now.

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Re: 1905 Newcastle hallmark

Postby JoW » Fri Sep 10, 2010 7:55 pm

Trev and Pat...Thank you for the help, 1930 it is.
Regards from Australia
Joe
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