Norway mark. Looks like sideways W or sideways M

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Norway mark. Looks like sideways W or sideways M

Postby Sparks » Fri Jun 11, 2010 5:35 pm

This child's sterling/enamel bracelet has the marking 925S and then a sideways W or M. I believe the piece to be from Norway. Can anyone help with identifying the mark? Thnx.
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Bracelet made for Export by Julius Winkler, Pforzheim German

Postby silverport » Fri Jun 11, 2010 10:00 pm

Hello

The Pforzheim, also export oriented jewellery factory, Julius Winkler has signed with an incised W without a cartouche.

In a German Professionals Addressbook of 1903:

* Winkler, Julius, Pforzheim, Holz-
gartenstr. 21. (1892.) Fabrikation von Gold-
bijouterie in jedem Feingehalt und feinem
und mittelfeinem Genre. Spezialität: Damen-
ringe, Broschen, Broschetten, Herrennadeln,
Kettenschieber und Ohrringe. Deutsch und
Export. 826

Translation:

(This brief entry was given by Julius Winkler themselves - 826 is publisher’s registration number of entry.)

* Winkler, Julius, Pforzheim, Holz-
gartenstr. 21. ([founded] 1892.) Fabrication of Gold-
jewellery in each Fineness and in luxury
and semi luxury Genre. Speciality: Lady’s-
ring’s, Brooches, Broochets, tie-pins,
Chains, and Earring’s. Germany and
Export. 826

Their maker’s mark is an incised W without a cartouche (frame).

Kind regards silverport

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Thank you, Silverport!

Postby Sparks » Sat Jun 12, 2010 12:08 am

Most of my relatives were from Norway, but one from Germany. Your information is wonderful! Thank you! Thank you!

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Postby volpone » Sat Jun 12, 2010 11:57 am

I don't believe German makers used the "S" designation after the silver content mark. It does look like a Norwegian piece to me, but I'm not familiar with that maker's mark (it sounded like it might have been Aksel Holmsen or Marius Hammer based on the description, but the picture does not look like either of those).

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Postby dragonflywink » Sat Jun 12, 2010 8:02 pm

I seldom click on thumbnails, but from your description and what I can see, must agree with Volpone that it appears to be mid-20th century Scandinavian, most likely Norwegian.

~Cheryl

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Export oriented: »We do more for you and your money«

Postby silverport » Mon Jun 14, 2010 8:58 pm

Hello Volpone & all

I don't believe that German maker's not or never used the "S" designation after the silver content mark!

I guess, that the biggest truck ever build couldn't transport all German made items, which were marked in conformity of their foreign customers need.

Here was/is in this case an item, a mark, a register on a jewellery maker who was also export oriented.

Well, I'm not specialised in jewellery - and of course I wasn't there, when this item was made.

I gave my information, based on details which are already described in the top part - and the in the book shown mark, well in printed only, looks like similar.

In the Pforzheim »Schmuckmuseum«, maybe they could give a sounded answer, how export oriented Pforzheim makers marked?

Kind regards silverport

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Postby admin » Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:07 pm

Hello,
An Oslo firm named Wikant used a "W" mark, however I am not sure of their years of operation.
Regards, Tom

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Postby Tosten » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:42 am

I agree with Tom.
It is either Karl Martin Wikant in Oslo 1897-1931 or his son Trond Wikant also Oslo 1922-1962.
It is late 1930 or 1940 and then Trond Wikant.
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Postby Sparks » Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:57 pm

Thank you for the info. I do believe the piece is from Norway and dates from the 1950's.

Also, I appreciate all of the remarks from everyone!

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How German export oriented producers sign if necessary

Postby silverport » Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:15 pm

Hello all

It’s very nice, and well accepted by me too, if the real producer would be found.

I like to show you how export oriented German producers sign their products, if it’s necessary:

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Maker’s mark of Gebr. Deyhle, Schwäb. Gmünd

For me it was already decennials on very clear, that any additional letter, following the fineness indication ciphers, don’t have the signification as a kind of Assay Office mark = signed only in that country as an indication of e.g. »Made in Norwegian«, or »Made in Sweden«

Kind regards silverport

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Postby Sparks » Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:43 pm

Thank you! I guess the "S" is used a lot. Like I stated before, I do believe that the piece came from Norway because of the majority of relatives were from there. Nothing can be taken for granted, however, can it?


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