Batavian Curtain Tie

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Batavian Curtain Tie

Postby Granmaa » Sun Feb 02, 2014 12:04 pm

Can anyone identify the marks on what I belive to be a c.1800 Batavian curtain tie?

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Re: Batavian Curtain Tie

Postby oel » Mon Feb 03, 2014 1:41 am

Hi Miles,

What makes you think Batavia; I do not recognize the Batavia city mark and If Dutch, the palm-tree, I believe has been identified; unknown Amsterdam maker's mark. I will check my book about Batavia & maker’s mark later this week, just to make sure. However Batavia has not always used a city hallmark. Although there were hallmarking regulations for VOC silver beginning in 1667, they were largely ignored until 1730. There were also silver objects made in Batavia by free Indonesian, Chinese, Muslim, and Mestizo (mixed European and Asian parentage) silversmiths, and these artisans were not obligated to hallmark their work, before or after 1730, unless, interestingly, they had converted to Christianity. See:
http://www.themagazineantiques.com/arti ... an-silver/

Batavia Dutch East Indies; from 1619 till 1949-today Jakarta Indonesian capital.
Batavia city mark based upon an upright sword in a laurel wreath.
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Re: Batavian Curtain Tie

Postby oel » Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:15 am

The palm-tree on your curtain tie is not the little palm-tree seen on objects made by Hendrik Rennebaum in combination with his masters’ mark HR in rectangle and always in combination with the city mark of Batavia.
Possibly the curtain tie could be Indian Coromandel Coast or made in Malacca.


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Re: Batavian Curtain Tie

Postby Granmaa » Sun Feb 09, 2014 9:14 am

Thanks, Oel. An avenue to pursue.

Miles


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