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Russian Cigarette Case?
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:24 am
by amodaff
Can anyone tell me anything about this cigarette case, which I believe is Russian? The scene is from China (1930s?)

Re: Russian Cigarette Case?
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 4:12 am
by oel
Hi welcome to the forum, have you showded us all the marks ? Or is 84 the only mark?
Oel .
Re: Russian Cigarette Case?
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 4:17 am
by amodaff
Thank you for your reply. 84 is the only mark.
Re: Russian Cigarette Case?
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 4:43 am
by oel
I believe the scene to be: buildings and statue on the piazza Regina Elena, former Italian Concession, Tianjin (Tientsin).
If 84 is the only mark it is not Russian or Soviet silver, for the Russian hallmarks see:
http://www.925-1000.com/Frussia.htmlThe 84 mark was used in Persia for silver 875/1000 fineness and on French silver-plated items to indicate the thickness of the plating. Let us wait for other reactions.
Oel.
Re: Russian Cigarette Case?
Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 3:26 pm
by Qrt.S
If that 84 is the only mark, there is nothing to react on, all has already been said by Oel. But if you insist dear Oel, I share your opinion, it is not Russian silver...if silver at all.
Re: Russian Cigarette Case?
Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:54 pm
by Zolotnik
Hi -
I suppose this is socalled "Nagasaki" - silver, mostly known objects are spoons. For the trade with Russians over the border always 84 marked.


Regards
Zolotnik
Re: Russian Cigarette Case?
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 8:06 pm
by davidross
The OP may want to test the piece for silver purity in light of the information in this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=35086#p91265Indeed, this cigarette case may be more appropriately catalogued under CES and the Far East Trade.
Regards
DR
Re: Russian Cigarette Case?
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 8:21 pm
by amodaff
May I ask what "CES" means?
Re: Russian Cigarette Case?
Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 12:19 am
by davidross
CES = Chinese Export Silver