Russian? Persian? Jewish?

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riggy
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Russian? Persian? Jewish?

Postby riggy » Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:28 am

Apologies if I am in the wrong group but there doesn't appear to be an Arabic(?) related group.
Stumped on this one, a goblet bearing the star of David but with Russian/Persian(?) 84 silver grade, however the inscriptions around the cup bowl appear Hebrew?
Many thanks in advance for any help.

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Re: Russian? Persian? Jewish?

Postby oel » Wed Dec 01, 2021 4:05 am

Hi, welcome to the forum. Please embedded your images as most of our members do not open links .

Peter.

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Re: Russian? Persian? Jewish?

Postby AG2012 » Wed Dec 01, 2021 4:59 am

Hi,
It is obviously a Kiddush goblet.Number 84 and marks with text in Arabic alphabet indicate it was made in Persia (Iran), not in Russia.
84 standard is not Russian zolotnik, but 84% silver standard (.840).This has already been discussed.
Most of Persian Jews left Iran.
Similar Kiddush goblets are made in Israel (also by Palestinian silversmiths) but I doubt they would use 84 standard, unless to deceive, which is not very likely, because it is obviously not lucrative Russian judaica (always a fake if offered as such).
Text can be easily read by a Hebrew speaker.
Regards


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Re: Russian? Persian? Jewish?

Postby riggy » Wed Dec 01, 2021 5:50 am

My thanks AG 2012 and also apologies for the links but my attempts to post actual images proved fruitless. Great information.


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