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by Qrt.S
Thu Jan 18, 2024 7:36 am
Forum: German, French, Dutch, Russian, Scandinavian or Other - Single Image
Topic: silver cup master's hallmark
Replies: 6
Views: 871

Re: silver cup master's hallmark

It is a French HALLmark, the Minerva head used 1838-(1973). It also shows the silver fineness 950/1000 promille
by Qrt.S
Thu Jan 18, 2024 7:12 am
Forum: German, French, Dutch, Russian, Scandinavian or Other - Single Image
Topic: silver cup master's hallmark
Replies: 6
Views: 871

Re: silver cup master's hallmark

Sorry AG is right: as from 1927...sorry
by Qrt.S
Thu Jan 18, 2024 7:07 am
Forum: European Jewelry
Topic: Please need to help - Björn Weckström or what is this?
Replies: 5
Views: 1245

Re: Please need to help - Björn Weckström or what is this?

The 925 is the silver fineness in promille (925/1000). Never heard that the S would mean Scandinavia??? The S stands for Silver. It is commonly seen on newer Norwegian made objects.
by Qrt.S
Thu Jan 18, 2024 6:56 am
Forum: German, French, Dutch, Russian, Scandinavian or Other - Single Image
Topic: silver cup master's hallmark
Replies: 6
Views: 871

Re: silver cup master's hallmark

The cut oval frame with a workers head is a Soviet import mark for foreign objects presented by customs in a Soviet assay office in Tbilisi (O). It was used 1947 to around 1954. Unfortunately I don't know the other mark but it is obviously the maker's mark in the exporting country? The 875 is the si...
by Qrt.S
Thu Jan 18, 2024 3:54 am
Forum: European Jewelry
Topic: Please need to help - Björn Weckström or what is this?
Replies: 5
Views: 1245

Re: Please need to help - Björn Weckström or what is this?

This object is not made in Finland (Björn Weckström is a Finn). The Finnish purity punch 925 lacks the S. In addition, the marking is also incomplete for Finland. Norway would be my guess, but ???
by Qrt.S
Mon Jan 15, 2024 1:06 pm
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Wine Ladle
Replies: 38
Views: 1879

Re: Wine Ladle

Not necessarily a fake, but as long as there are no reasonable explanations given for all marks, I consider it to be a dubious object, but that is my opinion only. Deviant opinions may occur of course. What have been presented regarding this case are mostly only opinions and assumptions etc....There...
by Qrt.S
Sun Jan 14, 2024 1:04 pm
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Wine Ladle
Replies: 38
Views: 1879

Re: Wine Ladle

??? Why do the rhombus shielded kokshnik exist on silver objects? As Mart already mentioned it is/was exclusively a gold mark to be used only on gold bracelets and chains and articles of the kind and made in Russia in 56 zol. gold. According to the rules/law it was forbidden to be punched on silver ...
by Qrt.S
Sun Jan 14, 2024 9:51 am
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Wine Ladle
Replies: 38
Views: 1879

Re: Wine Ladle

Sorry, but I see "problems". There are too many obscure marks here (nameless e.g AT. Why isn't he mentioned anywhere???) some with unclear origin (the square import mark), and reasons, big year gaps (kokshnik etc...) and attendant's assumptions (could be...) but no certainties. As said bef...
by Qrt.S
Sun Jan 14, 2024 8:04 am
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Wine Ladle
Replies: 38
Views: 1879

Re: Wine Ladle

@Mart Mind my asking but where and when was A. Trifonov active? This assayer's name is new for me. But, there was a silver master "Trifon", likely in Moscow in the far past (around 1476). Hardly anything is known about him, so let's skip him. Thank you in advance. Dmirty Ilich Tverskoy ass...
by Qrt.S
Sat Jan 13, 2024 5:56 am
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Wine Ladle
Replies: 38
Views: 1879

Re: Wine Ladle

Yes, "could have and could have"... All in all, very little is fully clear in this case. What about the smudgy mark you also questioned (for a reason!) and ones again: I wrote Baku REGION not Baku town! Tiflis as well as Baku are both in the old Baku region!
As for me case clear.
by Qrt.S
Sat Jan 13, 2024 2:18 am
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Wine Ladle
Replies: 38
Views: 1879

Re: Wine Ladle

A bit more
I wrote Baku for this reason: Оmikron stands for Закавказское пробирное управление Бакинский губернский пробирев (Transcaucasian Assay Office Baku Provincial Assay Office). Anyway that doesn't explain the kokoshnik's existence.
by Qrt.S
Sat Jan 13, 2024 2:05 am
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Wine Ladle
Replies: 38
Views: 1879

Re: Wine Ladle

Min my saying but, I wrote "Baku's region " not "city of Baku". Not quite the same, but in those days it was all imperial Russia. There is undoubtedly a long way from Baku to Tiflis, so ??? Anyway, the markings on the spoon are as said a mess! Moreover, there is a huge gap in yea...
by Qrt.S
Fri Jan 12, 2024 11:08 am
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Wine Ladle
Replies: 38
Views: 1879

Re: Wine Ladle

This is a mess! There are too many marks here in order to say anything with certainty. Like Mart wrote you have a Tiflis's mint punch from 1804-1832, but also a right looking kokshnik from 1907-1927 from Baku's region (O). Some kind of over stamping ?????? Summa summarum, what can be said is that it...
by Qrt.S
Fri Jan 05, 2024 7:29 am
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Fabergé August Frederik Hollming
Replies: 8
Views: 822

Re: Fabergé August Frederik Hollming

See the difference! roberotoalva1`s objects carry faked imperial Russian marks. The latter ones Soviet marks, a "minor" difference uh?
by Qrt.S
Fri Jan 05, 2024 5:03 am
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Fabergé August Frederik Hollming
Replies: 8
Views: 822

Re: Fabergé August Frederik Hollming

Mind my asking, but what is the town mark supposed to show? Sorry, but I cannot see Hollming here. He punched A*H without FABERGÉ'S mark). Unfortunately I'm a bit suspicious the marks are a mess.... There are some other oddities too...In my mind the objects are relatively newly made somewhere but no...
by Qrt.S
Sun Dec 31, 2023 2:33 pm
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Erik Kollin for faberge or just Erik Kollin
Replies: 43
Views: 2048

Re: Erik Kollin for faberge or just Erik Kollin

Yes this is not always so simple as it looks like. You have to understand when you are talking about a trade mark and when about a maker's mark. Unfortunately it doesn't stop here. The maker's mark is a kind of a problem. It doesn't necessarily mean that the maker's mark indicates who made the objec...
by Qrt.S
Sun Dec 31, 2023 1:03 pm
Forum: German, French, Dutch, Russian, Scandinavian or Other - Single Image
Topic: HB
Replies: 5
Views: 879

Re: HB

Thanks!

Happy new year.
by Qrt.S
Sun Dec 31, 2023 1:02 pm
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Erik Kollin for faberge or just Erik Kollin
Replies: 43
Views: 2048

Re: Erik Kollin for faberge or just Erik Kollin

For the records. It is mentioned earlier but Fabergé did not always used his punch. Objects ordered by him from Kollin, Nykänen and Pihl were never punched with Fabergé's (trade) mark. Sometimes objects objects made by Mickelsson also lack Fabergé's punch. The matter regarding Fabergé's punching not...
by Qrt.S
Sun Dec 31, 2023 12:24 pm
Forum: Russian Silver
Topic: Erik Kollin for faberge or just Erik Kollin
Replies: 43
Views: 2048

Re: Erik Kollin for faberge or just Erik Kollin

What is your point???

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