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by scorpio
Sat Sep 02, 2017 6:40 am
Forum: London Hallmarks
Topic: Possibly Irish silver???
Replies: 4
Views: 10054

Re: Possibly Irish silver???

Hi Pope,

It has a lion passant mark so definitely not Irish. I'll leave it up to the experts on English silver to comment further.
by scorpio
Fri May 05, 2017 1:50 pm
Forum: Irish Hallmarks
Topic: Chamber Candlestick
Replies: 2
Views: 8525

Re: Chamber Candlestick

Yes, it does look like John Hamilton's mark but like Trev, the lack of a pellet puzzles me. However, I inverted the image and have highlighted where I think the pellet is. I'm still not certain though. http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b500/centauri1/Irish%20Silver/Irish%20Silver%202/candlestick_i...
by scorpio
Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:43 pm
Forum: Irish Hallmarks
Topic: Celtic point teaspoon.
Replies: 3
Views: 12921

Re: Celtic point teaspoon.

This isn't the maker's mark shown in Bennett's book which is IN in a rectangular reserve with clipped corners. The corners on the spoon's reserve are sharp, similar to the mark for John Nicholson II in the Irish Provincial section on this website, which Trev gave you the link to, except for the rath...
by scorpio
Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:23 pm
Forum: General Questions
Topic: Irish spoon stamped "Sterling"
Replies: 2
Views: 7608

Re: Irish spoon stamped "Sterling"

Silver was stamped STERLING (with some variants of this) in Cork, Limerick and Kinsale from circa 1710 and common from 1715, along with the maker's mark, although you can find silver with just STERLING and no maker's mark or vice versa. Ireland however was not the only country to stamp STERLING so o...
by scorpio
Sat Feb 11, 2017 5:32 pm
Forum: Irish Hallmarks
Topic: Irish spoon
Replies: 11
Views: 12393

Re: Irish spoon

As I time on my hands yesterday, I compiled a montage of number of marks used throughout the second half of the 19th century, all of which have been attributed by a dealer, auction house or other seller to John Smyth. http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b500/centauri1/Irish%20Silver/Research%20on%20...
by scorpio
Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:11 pm
Forum: Irish Hallmarks
Topic: Irish spoon
Replies: 11
Views: 12393

Re: Irish spoon

Further to my previous note, I’m going to get more particular as to how I type the maker’s mark as we need to differentiate between J•S, used by the original John Smyth (Smith), who died in 1855 and the second John Smyth (let’s call him John Smyth Jnr.), who used J.S. On your spoon, the letters seem...
by scorpio
Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:08 pm
Forum: Irish Hallmarks
Topic: Irish spoon
Replies: 11
Views: 12393

Re: Irish spoon

Further to my previous note, I’m going to get more particular as to how I type the maker’s mark as we need to differentiate between J•S, used by the original John Smyth (Smith), who died in 1855 and the second John Smyth (let’s call him John Smyth Jnr.), who used J.S. On your spoon, the letters seem...
by scorpio
Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:13 am
Forum: Irish Hallmarks
Topic: Irish spoon
Replies: 11
Views: 12393

Re: Irish spoon

Hi Diane, Yes, it's a Dublin silver spoon fully hallmarked for 1867 but as to who the silversmith is, I don't know either. At first I though maybe John Smyth but he died in 1855. Another silversmith, also John Smyth and possibly his son, worked after him and used a similar J.S mark. Neither of their...
by scorpio
Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:43 pm
Forum: Irish Hallmarks
Topic: Cork John Warner IW
Replies: 6
Views: 7141

Re: Cork John Warner IW

My post should have read "One would expect a late 18th century Georgian silver goblet to be larger, perhaps c.15cm tall and c.9cm across at the top." (NOT late 17th century)
by scorpio
Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:40 pm
Forum: Irish Hallmarks
Topic: Cork John Warner IW
Replies: 6
Views: 7141

Re: Cork John Warner IW

I just saw 'goblet' in your original post and '10cm tall'' went right past me!

Your retired silversmith could be right. One would expect a late 17th century Georgian silver goblet to be larger, perhaps c.15cm tall and c.9cm across at the top.
by scorpio
Fri Dec 09, 2016 1:14 pm
Forum: Irish Hallmarks
Topic: Cork John Warner IW
Replies: 6
Views: 7141

Re: Cork John Warner IW

Neither Douglas Bennett nor the authors of Cork Silver and Gold show this IW mark without pellet although Bennett does portray an IW mark without pellet in a serrated reserve. Jackson's Silver and Gold Marks shows an IW mark without pellet in a plain rectangular reserve, seen on a communion cup c179...
by scorpio
Fri Dec 02, 2016 2:20 pm
Forum: Irish Hallmarks
Topic: Small Irish Georgian Silver Box
Replies: 2
Views: 4654

Re: Small Irish Georgian Silver Box

Many thanks Peter! I believe you are absolutely correct. I just looked up some silver loderein boxes online and the similarity is unmistakeable to those little Dutch boxes. I've never seen or even heard of an Irish made 'loderein' box like this before. It's so different from the usual Dublin silver ...
by scorpio
Fri Dec 02, 2016 12:15 pm
Forum: Irish Hallmarks
Topic: Small Irish Georgian Silver Box
Replies: 2
Views: 4654

Small Irish Georgian Silver Box

I've never come across an Irish Georgian silver box like this before so I think it may be quite rare. I am hoping to get some help as to its purpose. Although sold to me as a snuff box, maker's mark possibly HH, it was clearly impracticable for this use due to its shape and size, the diameter at the...
by scorpio
Tue Nov 15, 2016 3:54 pm
Forum: Irish Hallmarks
Topic: Irish provincial maker?
Replies: 24
Views: 27580

Re: Irish provincial maker?

I completely missed the June posts on this thread until now.

The fiddle pattern arrived in Ireland circa 1800 so at least the salt shovels would seem to eliminate John Irish (1748-1780) from being the mystery maker with initials IRH. As to who IRH is however, I'm no wiser.
by scorpio
Tue Nov 15, 2016 3:43 pm
Forum: British Hallmarks - Single Image
Topic: Cork John Warner IW
Replies: 4
Views: 4946

Re: Cork John Warner IW

Yes, looks like one of John Warner's marks. Here is a similar one from a marrow spoon made by him.

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by scorpio
Sun Nov 13, 2016 7:44 am
Forum: Irish Hallmarks
Topic: I know it's a dish ring but.....?
Replies: 8
Views: 8804

Re: I know it's a dish ring but.....?

Seems wild boar became extinct in Ireland in the 12th century so seems odd to have a hunting dog and a wild boar on an Irish dish ring (wild boar became extinct in England a century after Ireland but were reintroduced before becoming extinct again in the 17th century). Irish rococo dish rings had sc...
by scorpio
Sun Nov 13, 2016 7:01 am
Forum: Irish Hallmarks
Topic: Identifying STERLING marks
Replies: 55
Views: 53386

Re: Identifying STERLING marks

The Cork family name was Nicholson per some sources including an advertisement inserted by the Nicholsons in the Hibernian Chronicle, 1791 or Nicolson per other sources including marks shown in 'Collecting Irish Silver'. The photos of your spoon are far too small and unclear to see exactly what the ...
by scorpio
Fri Nov 11, 2016 11:29 am
Forum: Coin Silversmiths ~ American pre-1860
Topic: The Earliest Known Cork Maker's Mark?
Replies: 14
Views: 12501

Re: The Earliest Known Cork Maker's Mark?

I think you mean an excerpt from the Rose of Tralee (website) rather than Rose of Dundee! The Alsona Miaghe chalice is in the Cloyne Diocesan Centre, Cobh, Co. Cork according to A History of the Medieval Diocese of Cloyne. I've no idea if it's possible to view it but you can contact the centre at 02...
by scorpio
Wed Aug 24, 2016 9:55 am
Forum: Irish Hallmarks
Topic: Robert Goble of Cork
Replies: 7
Views: 8371

Re: Robert Goble of Cork

Karl, I concur with the view that the spoon is far more likely to have been made by Robert Goble the younger c.1720s. I say Robert Goble the younger because I have not seen evidence to assert that he is a son of the elder. He may in fact be a nephew, or even a cousin. Any thoughts on this point by ...
by scorpio
Wed Aug 17, 2016 5:41 am
Forum: Irish Hallmarks
Topic: Robert Goble of Cork
Replies: 7
Views: 8371

Re: Robert Goble of Cork

Douglas Bennet says this style of spoon with the handle turned up at the end and a ridge down the centre was introduced about 1710. The online seller suggested c1705 for this teaspoon which is just too early. As Trev said, it's difficult to be certain. Robert Goble Snr was probably dead by 1722 acco...

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