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An enquiry from a friend for a photo of the T ? mark on the frame, which is a repeat of the one on the studded chape, prompted my wife to admit that mark had helped her. Now she tells me ! So here it is . Sorry for poor quality https://www.925-1000.com/pics/Ximg.jpg Mind you, my admiration for Trevo...

Our illustrious moderator Trevor has very courteous and not to claimed victory on this site, but quickly came to the right answer after only a few moments on Sunday. He and my wife are obviously brighter than the rest of us ! Not remembering that most people have never seen a stock buckle, one clue ...

I recently bought a stock buckle with no assay marks, although it is almost certainly English, from the last quarter of the Eighteen Century. - Stock buckles were used to secure an elaborate cravat at the back of a gentleman's neck. https://www.925-1000.com/pics/Ximg.jpg https://www.925-1000.com/pic...

Great !
Now we need to know whose widow she was, and hope he was one of the silver-smithing Bateman family !

As Abraham Ardesoif was described as a Silversmith when appearing at the PCC to validate the obviously unwitnessed Will of of Master Gunner Stephen Demar Ardesoif a connection is extremely likely with our Stephen Ardesoif (Grimwade p.425 ). My speculation is that Susannah Bateman Ardesoif, the widow...

6 January 1836 John Sleap of Upper Ashby Street, Goswell Street Road Working Silversmith's will proved at London.(TNA/ PROB/ 1856/ 491) Upper Ashby Street, Goswell Street is in the Clerkenwell area, some distance North from from his last known address at Salisbury Court which is in the City, near to...

Can you check with your correspondent that the rather blurred punch at the bottom ( and slightly right of centre) is not a duty mark ? It looks more like a George head than a leopards head, which would shift the date up 40 years to 1820. Not that it would help us much there seems a conspicuous lack ...

10 April 1790 Joint Bucklemakers mark of James EATON & John SLEAP at 3, Salisbury Court, Fleet Street 19 July 1793 Sole buckle maker mark of James EATON registered at 2, Salisbury Court , Fleet Street. It was originally presumed that this indicated the dissolution of the partnership. And whether...

However a recently acquired shoe buckle with "u" date letter for 1795/96 and the JE / JS mark gives a problem to the theory that the partnership was dissolved around 1793. Either James had a separate mark for an additional solely operated business at 2, Salisbury Court , with the older par...

10 September 1795 Will of Ann Coughlan, widow, of St Leonards Shoreditch was proved at PCC. (TNA/ PROB 11/1265) Will dated 21st May 1795. Beneficiaries daughter Elizabeth Whitefoot,(presumably the Betsey who was with Laurence and Ann in Newfoundland) .. .. "my Wearing Apparel and Linen" - ...

Further proof that Ann Andrews, the widow of John Andrews is the lady who married Laurence Coughlan is provided by the her will proved at PCC on 10 September 1795. as Ann Coughlan (TNA/ PROB 11/1265) It clearly shows as beneficiaries many of her children and grandchildren who have Andrews as last or...

It certainly look like Grimwade No 3869 (page 274 -as an unregistered mark ) which he attributes to Thomas and William Chawner. Grimwades example had a 1763 date and, significantly was also on a gravy spoon

Grimwade No 2261 (page 164) marks registered 1824, 1825 and 1830 as plateworker.

1 September 1785 Will of Thomas Willson or Thomas Wilson, Silver Smith of St Nicolas Deptford Kent proved at PCC [ TNA /PROB11/1134 ] Made 17 December 1784. Wife was Mary, He refers to her as ' my present wife ' so he may have had a prior marriage. He appears to have a son of himself and Mary called...

Thomas Wallis (1) retired in 1785 and all his tools etc were sold. See below By 1810, when his will (proved 1819) was made he'd moved to Waltham Abbey, Essex. Although he may have passed just his old punches to his son, this seems unlikely. If the dateletter "O" is for 1789 Wallis (1) is j...

There was a family connection between George Gines and Thomas Deane (see http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=52145). George Gines' will of 1749 (proved 1751) gives a Thomas Dean as grandson. A Non -conformist record of an adult baptism of a George Gines Stibbs in 1768 gives the pa...

10 Oct 1767 London Evening Post reports "Friday night last some rogues got over a wall at Mr Dean's a silver Buckle-maker , in Norman's Buildings; they broke into the kitchen and stole a great deal of furniture " A similar account is given by the Gazetteer and New Daily Advertiser of Monda...

8 February 1761 Birth of Elizabeth Amelia Coley daughter of Simeon Coley and Elizabeth his wife. Born London. 3 October 1785 In the Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial baptismal records for 1785 under the heading "Where and When Baptised" is recorded "In her bedchamber in her fathers hou...

13 June 1742 IGI records the marriage of William Coles to Amey Clements at the "Mercers Hall Chapel Cheapside - non parochial London" (which is close to Huggin Lane). She may have been daughter of a Mercer of course. This is the Huggins/ Monkwell Street Coles 13 September 1748 The birth is...

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Believed to be Simeon Coley's mark of 1st February 1779 as a bucklemaker at 35 Fetter Lane. Found on a Stock buckle of around 1775 - 1784
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