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by Georg
Thu Jan 06, 2022 10:50 am
Forum: German Silver
Topic: Old spoon from Gdańsk
Replies: 21
Views: 2144

Re: Old spoon from Gdańsk

Hi, The spoon appears to be made of silver but of very poor quality. The touchstone/acid test showed that the silver content is much lower than .750 (the lowest I had). The Archimedes law says that the silver content is around .410 provided that it is indeed an alloy of silver and copper. Regards, G...
by Georg
Wed Jan 05, 2022 3:16 pm
Forum: German Silver
Topic: Old spoon from Gdańsk
Replies: 21
Views: 2144

Re: Old spoon from Gdańsk

Hi,

I shall try to make close up photo but need better light (tomorrow). Do you want me to place it here or send to some e-mail address?

Regards,

Georg
by Georg
Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:37 am
Forum: German Silver
Topic: Old spoon from Gdańsk
Replies: 21
Views: 2144

Re: Old spoon from Gdańsk

Hi,

Unfortunately, the date is 1703 and none other. I have checked it again.

Kind regards,

Georg
by Georg
Tue Jan 04, 2022 12:53 pm
Forum: German Silver
Topic: Old spoon from Gdańsk
Replies: 21
Views: 2144

Re: Old spoon from Gdańsk

Hi again,

I agree with the last post: the spoon is not worth much so why bother and fake marks?
Anyway, I will check for silver.

Regards,

Georg
by Georg
Tue Jan 04, 2022 8:59 am
Forum: German Silver
Topic: Old spoon from Gdańsk
Replies: 21
Views: 2144

Re: Old spoon from Gdańsk

Hello everybody, I have never dreamt of such a discussion about this spoon! Replying to the last post: disregarding the 1703 date, either the other marks are fake or they are genuine. If they are fake the spoon might have been manufactured anywhere not necessarily in Gdańsk and not even made of silv...
by Georg
Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:36 am
Forum: German Silver
Topic: Old spoon from Gdańsk
Replies: 21
Views: 2144

Re: Old spoon from Gdańsk

Hi, That is helpful indeed! Thank you very much. Now we have two marks: city (1699-1707), master Christian Schubert II (1689-1737), and engraving (1703). All of them do overlap. In summary: I was wrong thinking it is from the XVIIth century. Based on the discussion I would guess it is from the very ...
by Georg
Sun Nov 28, 2021 12:48 pm
Forum: German Silver
Topic: Old spoon from Gdańsk
Replies: 21
Views: 2144

Re: Old spoon from Gdańsk

Hi,

I was able to further reduce the period of the town hallmark.
According to the book M. Gradowski, Marks on silver in Poland,
the mark was used between 1699 and 1707, which is not far from Rosenberg, and is coincident with 1703.

Regards,

Georg
by Georg
Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:30 am
Forum: German Silver
Topic: Old spoon from Gdańsk
Replies: 21
Views: 2144

Re: Old spoon from Gdańsk

Hi, I have done some research and found that the first examples of Hanoverian spoon pattern in England are from around 1705. I do not know whether it is British pattern or it came from abroad. The spoon is from Gdańsk, which was in Poland, Prussia or free city depending on the period. The 1703 date ...
by Georg
Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:15 am
Forum: German Silver
Topic: Old spoon from Gdańsk
Replies: 21
Views: 2144

Re: Old spoon from Gdańsk

Hi, Thank you very much for both posts. As I am no expert on spoon design I can only say something on hallmarks and what is written there. There is the date 1703, which appears to be a later addition to the original engraving. I doubt it is fake. The best approximation to the city mark date I have f...
by Georg
Thu Nov 25, 2021 7:17 am
Forum: German Silver
Topic: Old spoon from Gdańsk
Replies: 21
Views: 2144

Re: Old spoon from Gdańsk

Hi,

Thank you very much for your fast reply, and the confirmation.
Is it known when he died?

Kind regards, and thank you once more,

Georg
by Georg
Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:09 am
Forum: German Silver
Topic: Old spoon from Gdańsk
Replies: 21
Views: 2144

Old spoon from Gdańsk

Dear All, Some time ago I got an old spoon (see photo). There is a date on it (1703) but after some research I found that probably it is older. As per hallmarks I suspect that it originates from Gdańsk (now Poland/German Danzig) from the second half of 17th century. I was even able to find a possibl...
by Georg
Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:23 am
Forum: French Silver
Topic: Unknown French mark & maker
Replies: 3
Views: 1264

Re: Unknown French mark & maker

My error: Galliot was active earlier but this mark was introduced around 1818.

G.
by Georg
Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:00 am
Forum: French Silver
Topic: Unknown French mark & maker
Replies: 3
Views: 1264

Re: Unknown French mark & maker

Thank you so much. Shortly: the maker is Jean Louis Galliot of Lyon, active from around 1818.
The antelope head is the mark encountered in Lyon silver from that period and nobody knows for sure what it means.
Again, I am much obliged for your time and experise.

Kind regards,

Georg
by Georg
Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:39 am
Forum: French Silver
Topic: Unknown French mark & maker
Replies: 3
Views: 1264

Unknown French mark & maker

Hello everybody, I have acquired lately a French confiturier - see photo. It may be dated between 1819 and 1838 per two hallmarks in the upper row (see the second photo): the proof 950/1000 (provinces) and its origin (most probably 67- Lyon). The mark down left is most likely the maker’s. The mark d...
by Georg
Sat Jul 24, 2021 10:53 am
Forum: General Questions
Topic: VEYRAT once more
Replies: 2
Views: 3664

Re: VEYRAT once more

Dear JayT,

Sorry for your discomfort but I did not mean to sound aggressive.
Please, accept my apologies.

Regards,

G.
by Georg
Sat Jul 24, 2021 5:24 am
Forum: General Questions
Topic: VEYRAT once more
Replies: 2
Views: 3664

VEYRAT once more

Hello everybody,, I would like to come back to the topic (link below) on how long the maker mark VEYRAT (star above and below) was actually used. https://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=52389 The reason is that despite the vast evidence given there, that the mark was used well into the second...
by Georg
Wed Jul 14, 2021 10:51 am
Forum: European Jewelry
Topic: Help with French hallmarks
Replies: 1
Views: 3202

Re: Help with French hallmarks

Hi, I am afraid I will not be of much help as I am rather new here. Yes, your first mark looks like the crab, French mark used after 1838. Yes, your second mark resembles a leaf. The leaf was used in France between 1819 and 1838 for marking foreign objects. However, your leaf does not resemble that ...
by Georg
Tue Jun 29, 2021 9:28 am
Forum: French Silver
Topic: Maker & date unclear
Replies: 4
Views: 2509

Re: Maker & date unclear

Hi,

Glad to hear that I was right.
At least with this.

Regards,

G.
by Georg
Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:57 am
Forum: French Silver
Topic: Maker & date unclear
Replies: 4
Views: 2509

Re: Maker & date unclear

Dear JayT, Thank you for your response that clarified a lot. First of all, I was wrong suspecting that double B under a crown is a date letter: it obviously is not. It leaves us with the time frame from 1756 to 1796 (maybe a little earlier for the second), and the name Imlin within rectangle. Howeve...
by Georg
Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:37 am
Forum: French Silver
Topic: Maker & date unclear
Replies: 4
Views: 2509

Maker & date unclear

Hello everybody, Some time ago I bought a tray (see photo below along with marks). https://www.silver-collector.com/uploads/db2678/optimized/2X/8/8d1e9b5974db3f4dc27c863a610f48ff8407ecbe_2_510x500.jpeg https://www.silver-collector.com/uploads/db2678/optimized/2X/1/1e14a1f50df21345be2420a19b1e5ae8bd5...

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