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by MGArgent
Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:04 pm
Forum: Coin Silversmiths ~ American pre-1860
Topic: Liberty Brown (Alternate Mark)?
Replies: 18
Views: 4510

Re: Liberty Brown (Alternate Mark)?

Found the mark in "Marks of Early American Silversmiths" Considering the mark would have appeared on the previous page if placed in alphabetical order, it seems to be implying a possible attribution to Liberty Browne: Marks of Early American Silversmiths- Currier, Earnest - Pg 21 https://i...
by MGArgent
Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:59 am
Forum: Coin Silversmiths ~ American pre-1860
Topic: Liberty Brown (Alternate Mark)?
Replies: 18
Views: 4510

Re: Liberty Brown (Alternate Mark)?

The results popped up after a few targeted searches on Google. Since it is known that there were a large number of silversmiths working in New York, I entered the following search which yielded the L. Brown of Rochester result: "L. Brown", silversmith, NY Needless to say there are many mor...
by MGArgent
Fri Jan 15, 2021 3:33 am
Forum: Coin Silversmiths ~ American pre-1860
Topic: Liberty Brown (Alternate Mark)?
Replies: 18
Views: 4510

Re: Liberty Brown (Alternate Mark)?

There is also an entry for a Levi Brown of Detroit in this thesis on page 75 (actually page 82 of the PDF): The Silversmiths of Old Detroit Although none of Brown's marked work is known today, his closeness to Chauncy S. Payne, who was a silversmith, would lead one to believe that Brown did deal in ...
by MGArgent
Fri Jan 15, 2021 2:47 am
Forum: Coin Silversmiths ~ American pre-1860
Topic: Liberty Brown (Alternate Mark)?
Replies: 18
Views: 4510

Re: Liberty Brown (Alternate Mark)?

I may have come across some information that points away from Liberty Browne: See Rochester Museum of Arts and Sciences - Silversmiths of Rochester Find the entry on page 26 (actually page 15 of the PDF) for L. Brown: L. Brown Rochester directory 1838 lists him as a silversmith You can search an onl...
by MGArgent
Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:46 pm
Forum: Family Crests
Topic: Crest on a pair of William and Mary tazze
Replies: 10
Views: 4166

Re: Crest on a pair of William and Mary tazze

I was doing some unrelated coat of arms research and came across a few great resources. I decided to give Lambert another try and came up with some more info for you: At the following link, if you search "Lambert" it is documented that Richard Lambert acquired arms in 1564: Grantees of arm...
by MGArgent
Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:31 pm
Forum: London Hallmarks
Topic: Queen Anne Porringer
Replies: 8
Views: 1730

Re: Queen Anne Porringer

Hi John, The other thread was started 5 years ago and was inconclusive. It seems reasonable to me that enough time has passed to seek answers elsewhere and start a thread here (to be clear I don't make the forum's rules). Most importantly, we should get to the bottom of this mystery! The previous re...
by MGArgent
Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:04 pm
Forum: London Hallmarks
Topic: Queen Anne Porringer
Replies: 8
Views: 1730

Re: Queen Anne Porringer

Counter to my previous post, evidently this same porringer was discussed on another forum in 2015 where Nathaniel Lock was considered and subsequently dismissed as the possible maker. Silver Collector Forums - Queen Anne Porringer - 1713 You may need to wait for an opinion regarding the maker from o...
by MGArgent
Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:43 pm
Forum: London Hallmarks
Topic: Queen Anne Porringer
Replies: 8
Views: 1730

Re: Queen Anne Porringer

I concur with 1713.

Stylistically, the joining of the "L" and the "O" are similar to another Nathaniel Lock mark that shows the characteristic "key" symbol.

I vote for Nathaniel Lock.

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by MGArgent
Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:03 pm
Forum: French Silver
Topic: French Beaker/Timbale 1794-1779 or 1798-1809
Replies: 14
Views: 3803

Re: French Beaker/Timbale 1794-1779 or 1798-1809

Apologies for adding so many posts to this thread but I need to issue a correction. I noticed the article with LJB maker mark and Michelangelo mark (1819-1838) I was using as reference to develop the table was also was stamped with a 1er coq (1st rooster 1798-1809) mark. Presumably the timbale was m...
by MGArgent
Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:18 am
Forum: Family Crests
Topic: Crest on a pair of William and Mary tazze
Replies: 10
Views: 4166

Re: Crest on a pair of William and Mary tazze

Interesting information, thank you for sharing this update.
by MGArgent
Tue Jan 12, 2021 1:09 am
Forum: London Hallmarks
Topic: Queen Anne Dinner Plate w/ Coat of Arms
Replies: 13
Views: 6102

Re: Queen Anne Dinner Plate w/ Coat of Arms

Supporting the assumption above, it turns out there is precedence for baronets to augment their coats of arms with special cantons to differentiate themselves from family members. This is from an excerpt from Wikipedia - Canton (heraldry) which provides references in the article: Special cantons may...
by MGArgent
Tue Jan 12, 2021 12:39 am
Forum: French Silver
Topic: French Beaker/Timbale 1794-1779 or 1798-1809
Replies: 14
Views: 3803

Re: French Beaker/Timbale 1794-1779 or 1798-1809

Hi JayT, I appreciate you taking the time to respond to my questions, so thank you again. Arminjon's assertion that Louis-Jacques Berger’s first lozenge-shaped mark was registered in 1807 would mean that Berger was violating the French laws of 19 Brumaire an VI [9 Nov 1797] that required makers to u...
by MGArgent
Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:42 pm
Forum: French Silver
Topic: French Beaker/Timbale 1794-1779 or 1798-1809
Replies: 14
Views: 3803

Re: French Beaker/Timbale 1794-1779 or 1798-1809

Regarding question 2.i, it was not specific to the timbale in this post. It was a general question regarding identification of any silver article produced in France during 1793-1797. I created a separate thread to address this question here: 925-1000.com - Identifying French Silver Produced 1793-1797
by MGArgent
Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:35 pm
Forum: French Silver
Topic: Identifying French Silver Produced 1793-1797
Replies: 2
Views: 2110

Identifying French Silver Produced 1793-1797

Hi Forum, I have come across several articles of silver for sale with the Association des Orfévres mark (Greek woman's head) that are represented as having been produced in France between 1793-1797 when in fact they were not. There are a several good discussions on the Association des Orfévres mark ...
by MGArgent
Mon Jan 11, 2021 4:51 pm
Forum: London Hallmarks
Topic: By whom & when was this made?
Replies: 4
Views: 1175

Re: By whom & when was this made?

Regarding the transposing of marks (transferring of marks from one article to another), the Goldsmiths' Company Assay Office Website has a page on the Antique Plate Committee (APC) which is responsible for adjudicating spurious silver articles. At the top of this webpage is a short video that provid...
by MGArgent
Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:19 am
Forum: London Hallmarks
Topic: By whom & when was this made?
Replies: 4
Views: 1175

Re: By whom & when was this made?

The website Silvermakersmarks.co.uk mentions that John Robinson II's mark has been spotted on salvers and trays, so it is likely that your piece was one or the other.
by MGArgent
Mon Jan 11, 2021 1:07 am
Forum: London Hallmarks
Topic: By whom & when was this made?
Replies: 4
Views: 1175

Re: By whom & when was this made?

Made by John Robinson II, assayed in London 1749. I believe it is likely that the decoration was engraved around the 2nd half of the 19th century. To my eyes it looks like it could be the center of a damaged salver that had a pie crust edge removed. If it was indeed cutout, you could speculate that ...
by MGArgent
Sat Jan 09, 2021 6:35 pm
Forum: French Silver
Topic: French Beaker/Timbale 1794-1779 or 1798-1809
Replies: 14
Views: 3803

Re: French Beaker/Timbale 1794-1779 or 1798-1809

Hello JayT, Thank you for the excellent answers and for clarifying that this timbale was made by Louis-Jacques Berger. I do have some short follow-up questions: ⋅ The mark on my timbale has some deformation and I don't think there is a pellet. Instead of a pellet, I believe it might actual...
by MGArgent
Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:57 pm
Forum: French Silver
Topic: French Beaker/Timbale 1794-1779 or 1798-1809
Replies: 14
Views: 3803

French Beaker/Timbale 1794-1779 or 1798-1809

Hi Forum, I obtained this French beaker late last year. I haven't committed to polishing it yet so it's a bit dark still, but I admittedly tend to favour cleaning pieces (especially those intended for food/beverage consumption). I am hoping for assistance with the following questions: ⋅ I ...
by MGArgent
Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:45 pm
Forum: General Questions
Topic: Jacob Leonard Wash DC (House Of Congress Inkstand)
Replies: 6
Views: 5843

Re: Jacob Leonard Wash DC (House Of Congress Inkstand)

I hate to be the one to tell you this but...

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