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by Traintime
Sat Mar 05, 2022 10:39 pm
Forum: General Questions
Topic: G. Weeton Manufacturing Company
Replies: 1
Views: 474

G. Weeton Manufacturing Company

Seem to have found this one listed at the same address as the Toronto Silver Plate Company Limited in this (on-line) directory: https://books.google.com/books?id=YeLUwvEpfUEC&pg=PA234&lpg=PA234&dq=silver+g.+weeton+manufacturing+company+toronto+montreal+canada&source=bl&ots=s4os7N...
by Traintime
Sat Mar 05, 2022 3:05 pm
Forum: Contributors' Notes
Topic: Restaurantware Suppliers In Silverwares
Replies: 26
Views: 8824

Re: Restaurantware Suppliers In Silverwares

Sample china plate H. Natoway (see above) supplied ware for Blum's in SoCal region/Los Angeles area:

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by Traintime
Sun Feb 27, 2022 2:33 am
Forum: Silverplate Trademarks - Worldwide
Topic: Oneida Commercial Marks: DEPOT CAFE Spoon
Replies: 3
Views: 461

Re: Oneida Commercial Marks: DEPOT CAFE Spoon

A bit more background for 699 Third Street, pre-earthquake, from June 1905: https://books.google.com/books?id=qd_NAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA538&lpg=PA538&dq=cafe+699+3rd+Street+san+francisco&source=bl&ots=4S9nuxvP0z&sig=ACfU3U1bLxAUX9CNeJR3TKDoe7JgvGgQOA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKE...
by Traintime
Sat Feb 26, 2022 4:07 am
Forum: Silverplate Trademarks - Worldwide
Topic: Oneida Commercial Marks: DEPOT CAFE Spoon
Replies: 3
Views: 461

Re: Oneida Commercial Marks: DEPOT CAFE Spoon

Perhaps the solution. In 1910, the SP Cafe (Saloon) was located at 707-709 3rd. In the later photo we can see a watch inspector at the address 709, right next to the DEPOT COFFEE SHOP at 711. The large square structure to the left is on the 600 block and Shean's DEPOT CAFE was at 699. Looking closel...
by Traintime
Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:46 am
Forum: Coin Silversmiths ~ American pre-1860
Topic: Sutton, American silversmith?
Replies: 3
Views: 412

Re: Sutton, American silversmith?

Thorn listed Robert Sutton New Haven 1815 but had no sample marks for him back then. Now we do, for initials. But look at the watchpaper sample where his name is spelled out. Some of these guys have maker and retailer marks, as well as changes of each over time. So, this is not conclusive: https://w...
by Traintime
Thu Feb 24, 2022 12:20 am
Forum: Contributors' Notes
Topic: Restaurantware Suppliers In Silverwares
Replies: 26
Views: 8824

Re: Restaurantware Suppliers In Silverwares

The NATOWAY COMPANY operated in Los Angeles, though very little is recorded of it. They are known to have carried china by Jackson and Mayer, with wares by the latter customized with top decoration for the Southern California branch of the bay area based Blums. In silverwares, the firm has carried i...
by Traintime
Wed Feb 23, 2022 12:42 am
Forum: European Jewelry
Topic: Mixed Silver Marks
Replies: 6
Views: 521

Re: Mixed Silver Marks

That unknown one...Austria-Hungary dogmark (.800)?
by Traintime
Tue Feb 22, 2022 9:44 pm
Forum: Silverplate Trademarks - Worldwide
Topic: Oneida Commercial Marks: DEPOT CAFE Spoon
Replies: 3
Views: 461

Re: Oneida Commercial Marks: DEPOT CAFE Spoon

Depot Cafe of Albany can't be outright dismissed as it existed on the 800 block of Lyon Street as early as the 1950 directory, where it still operates, but the structure seems questionable. The Depot Hotel at "corner 11th & Lyon" was purchased from the railroad in 1892-4, and moved to ...
by Traintime
Tue Feb 22, 2022 9:15 pm
Forum: Scandinavian Silver
Topic: Spoon: Double Stamp Ovoid/Prickings/Gravings/1808
Replies: 15
Views: 976

Re: Spoon: Double Stamp Ovoid/Prickings/Gravings/1808

A fine surviving photo of the same style of double marks in ovoid cartouche, unfortunately with no reply to confirm the very early marking of a 1700's inscribed dating: https://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=24078&p=57963&hilit=Schleswig&sid=98a9862ede31b6e746861a0a328ae...
by Traintime
Tue Feb 22, 2022 5:26 pm
Forum: Scandinavian Silver
Topic: Spoon: Double Stamp Ovoid/Prickings/Gravings/1808
Replies: 15
Views: 976

Re: Spoon: Double Stamp Ovoid/Prickings/Gravings/1808

Later era, not exactly like (& actually assayed), and a captain's spoon...but Bahner has added an interesting note on a particular area where Dane and German can come together: https://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=32457&p=82653&hilit=german+provincial&sid=42e32b468...
by Traintime
Tue Feb 22, 2022 4:59 pm
Forum: Scandinavian Silver
Topic: Spoon: Double Stamp Ovoid/Prickings/Gravings/1808
Replies: 15
Views: 976

Re: Spoon: Double Stamp Ovoid/Prickings/Gravings/1808

Another sample from 2011 with some images supplemented by description (to be clear, my mark is entirely intaglio, both struck equally, both with same blunted letters): https://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=23848&p=57394&hilit=norway+provincial&sid=46200f7bd1f8368d950f65...
by Traintime
Sun Feb 20, 2022 9:34 pm
Forum: Scandinavian Silver
Topic: Spoon: Double Stamp Ovoid/Prickings/Gravings/1808
Replies: 15
Views: 976

Re: Spoon: Double Stamp Ovoid/Prickings/Gravings/1808

Indeed there is a faint trace of a central spine running from the handle tip down to where it begins to narrow and turn inward. Then it just goes flat.
by Traintime
Sun Feb 20, 2022 2:48 pm
Forum: Scandinavian Silver
Topic: Spoon: Double Stamp Ovoid/Prickings/Gravings/1808
Replies: 15
Views: 976

Re: Spoon: Double Stamp Ovoid/Prickings/Gravings/1808

Danke! So now we can take both Ww. and Wwe. to represent "Widow (of)" in German. [Perhaps also useful as there is another community slightly further north, reportedly to have had some concentrated heritage of German immigration.] -->Thence, convolutedly if not logically, P.DD. may be the w...
by Traintime
Sun Feb 20, 2022 12:46 pm
Forum: Silverplate Trademarks - Worldwide
Topic: Oneida Commercial Marks: DEPOT CAFE Spoon
Replies: 3
Views: 461

Oneida Commercial Marks: DEPOT CAFE Spoon

Now we come to one of those troublesome questions...At what time did the ONEIDA A1 mark appear with serif letters. They seem to have introduced Windsor pattern around 1919 when the firm was still known as Community, but markings for their hotel wares are less well documented than those for household...
by Traintime
Sun Feb 20, 2022 11:35 am
Forum: Scandinavian Silver
Topic: Spoon: Double Stamp Ovoid/Prickings/Gravings/1808
Replies: 15
Views: 976

Re: Spoon: Double Stamp Ovoid/Prickings/Gravings/1808

Actually, your hunch does make a lot of sense as this is an area with heavy Scan settlement, rural but not backwoods. This linked thread (no photos) provides a partial supporting remark (by HOSE_dk) on Danish Provins Silver practices in dopple markings, though there are no city marks present in this...
by Traintime
Sat Feb 19, 2022 10:54 pm
Forum: Contributors' Notes
Topic: Canadian Naval Services: Silver, Silverplate, History
Replies: 4
Views: 169

Re: Canadian Naval Services: Silver, Silverplate, History

The old gent in the photos is wearing the 10 Maple crest, but was in service in 1944 as shown. At the time of this shot about a year or so back, he was 99 years old and expected to be 100 for the planned re-union of any veterans who could be found as seen in the ad at that time. Obviously wearing th...
by Traintime
Sat Feb 19, 2022 10:44 pm
Forum: Contributors' Notes
Topic: Canadian Naval Services: Silver, Silverplate, History
Replies: 4
Views: 169

Re: Canadian Naval Services: Silver, Silverplate, History

Move over boys! The ladies were joining the show too, on both land and sea. W.R.C.N.S. was the Womens Royal Canadian Naval Service of WWII, a revival of the earlier "Wrens". https://i.postimg.cc/zXpJ18Yp/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/HkxTYRpm/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/fRrDJCL9/image....
by Traintime
Sat Feb 19, 2022 10:31 pm
Forum: Contributors' Notes
Topic: Canadian Naval Services: Silver, Silverplate, History
Replies: 4
Views: 169

Re: Canadian Naval Services: Silver, Silverplate, History

Images collected for research purposes. Sample pot with 10 Maple Royal Canadian Navy (R.C.N.) crest. British sourced this time. Usage unknown. https://i.postimg.cc/Yq0612Rm/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/28t4Tp99/image.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/Mpj1Fsh6/image.jpg
by Traintime
Sat Feb 19, 2022 10:21 pm
Forum: Scandinavian Silver
Topic: Spoon: Double Stamp Ovoid/Prickings/Gravings/1808
Replies: 15
Views: 976

Spoon: Double Stamp Ovoid/Prickings/Gravings/1808

No idea where to go with this one. Maker may be (IB), (TB), (IR), (TR) or possibly even with "K"! Too rubbed now. Might fit a Colonial/Federal American or Continental Provincial. Can not tell if pricked work is John or Sohn. End tip of handle has a very pronounced swing back and thickness....

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