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That may be so but I am inclined to think that the script is Latin and possibly in "Frackschrift", the Gothic type alphabet in common use throughout Germany until WWII.

The script is, I think, Latin: AJ or AT

And here is the history of the firm which was founded in 1843

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berndorfe ... arenfabrik

This link should identify the maker and provide some clues about the marks.

http://www.ascasonline.org/articoloDICEM104.html

Here we have an interesting set of engraved initials. It is to be found on what appears to have been an extensive silver service produced by John Nicholson of Cork about 1790. At least four table spoons and two serving spoons (13'' long) are known to have survived from it. The serving spoons were in...

doc wrote:The Sisters of Loreto operated (and continue to operate) a number of schools and convents in Ireland, including a number in and around Dublin, so I do not think that the engraving is of much assistance in narrowing down the attribution.

I disagree with this and take a contrary position.

Loretto Gorey has nothing to do with Loretto Fermoy. They were completely independent houses. In the case of Loretto Fermoy, it did have a dependent house in Clonmel. Brief history here: http://loretofermoy.ie/about/history/ I viewed the silver at the auction in Fermoy. Much of it appears to have co...

You've got my interest now! That small "v" shape to the left of the C and below the super M did not seem right. Looking at old pen lettering guides I have come the the conclusion that the initialing here is H before E with super M intertwined, not JCE. This would be consistent with engrav...

As an example of a Cork piece of silver with a crest and initials, a soup ladle by Carden Terry, from about 1780, illustrates an example of a fairly positive identification. The crest -which apparently is pseudo and excluded from Burke's General Armory - would appear to be that of the Putland family...

nobilityhouse wrote:I see a superscript M above the C before the E. Good luck with this.

You are perfectly correct. Many thanks for that.

This is a most interesting proposition and may explain the absence of any heraldic devices. In some instances, initials accompany crests. This allows for a cross referencing or else for the exclusion of some possibilities where an heraldic device can be attributed to more than one family. Many thanks.

The initials are almost always (as far as I can see) on fat ware.

It is on a spoon.

Help would be appreciated in identifying the initials "JCE" which are frequently found on items of Cork silver. The example shown here is on a basting spoon by Carden Terry and dates from c. 1790. http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z399/Argentum3/jce%20cork%201790xx.jpg

John II & Nicholas Nicholson STERLING marks c. 1810



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A STERLING mark of Carden Terry c. 1785



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A STERLIN mark used by Samuel Green c. 1810

http://db.tt/uYCxDznm

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Another STERLING mark used by Carden Terry c. 1785

Argentum2 wrote:Joseph Gibson:

One used by Gibson

Another punch used by John Nicholson c. 1785 with another type of maker's mark http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z399/Argentum3/nicholson%20j%201%20mark%201784%20salver%201.jpg http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z399/Argentum3/nicholson%20j%201%20mark%201784%20salver%202.jpg A similar type mark ...