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Hi - I do not understand why you do not accept the history and the facts. Malcz started his workshop in 1828 (!) not in 1852 (!) and gave the leadership of his shop to August Theodor Werner 1864 (!). He died 1867. All this authors copy from copys and do not proof the facts. According to the politica...

Hi Smokanabeach - when you come from French silver collecting as you stated - than the step to Russian silver is easy. You already know all about quality, marking, where and how to look , different time periods etc. You just need some good books about Russian silver. My suggestions: No 1, the best b...

Hi Smokanabeach - now the lessons I wanted to avoid are beginning: To make a long story short, you must get some literature in your language and learn about the marking rules. Then you need a book covering the different towns, assayers and silversmiths. If you have read and understood all this books...

Hi Smokanabeach - Now you show that you have not done your homework. How can you estimate/collect an object if you do not know at least the most essential marks and how the Russian silversmithing worked. Please do not ask the forum for private lessons - there are enough books on the market or in lib...

Hi Smokanabeach - before you start to collect something like Russian silver, you must know the history, background, laws, rules, marks and what you really want. Than after starting slow (unexpensive) with small objects, having done your homework, watching the market (esp. the fake market!), having b...

Hi Smokanabeach -

in this case you have a pair of fakes!
The marks are lookalikes, the engraving is poor, unprecise and complete different from eachother. Have a close look and measure!

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Zolotnik

Hi Smokanabeach -

maybe No 3 and No 5 are from the same maker, compare the pattern - your photos are difficult to read for me. Long distance diagnosis is always a little problematic.

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Zolotniki

Hi Smokanabeach -

Townmark: Moscow 1899-1908
Assayer: Ivan Sergejewitsch Lebedkin 1899
Maker: К.П or Х.П, unrecorded

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Zolotnik

Hi Smokanabeach -

Townmark: Moscow 1899-1908
Assayer: Ivan Sergejewitsch Lebedkin 1899
Maker: ИБ (?) Butusov Ivan 1895-1917

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Zolotnik

Hi Smokanabeach -

Townmark: Kiev 1899-1908
Assayer: Aleksandr Kasimirowitsch Virschikov
Maker: B.P (?), unrecorded

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Zolotnik

Hi Smokanabeach - Townmark: Moscow 1899-1908 Assayer: Ivan Ivanowitsch Lebedkin 1899 Maker: probably Ivan Ivanowitsch Ovtschinnikov 1875-1896 (?), unclear date but the small round stamp (quality confirmation) points to him. Several stopki and piomki from him in my collecton. Typical quality. PL # 25...

Hi Smokanabeach -

Townmark: Kiev 1899-1908
Assayer: Aleksandr Kasimirowitsch Virschikov
Maker: Ivan Zavyanov 1892-1908. the largest silvermaker of Kiev bef. Revolution

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Zolotnik

Hi Smokanabeach -

all your shown stopki are authentic! I am just too lazy to explain each single stopka. Better show only one object per query!

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Zolotnik

Hi Catracha -

your spoons are def. Persian. First mark is silvercontent 84 = 875/100 (for historic reasons Persia took the same silverstandard like Russia), second mark is the maker - all written in Efarsi (Pers. language).

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Zolotnik

Hi silvercollector99 - I am afraid that your salt dish (that is how the sellers name this vessel) is one of the many fakes. Real Polish silver under Russian rules is differently marked (acc. to Russian law). Here 2 photos of correct markings: http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/dd334/Postnicov/Malcz0...

Hi -

Qrt.S is right - it must be the year 1825! Than all the other marks are as they should be.

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Zolotnik

Hi silverstork -

though the photos are not the best, I read the following:

Moscow 1865, silver content 84 Zolotniki = 875/1000, maker ПЕЦЪ К. Я. = Petz Konstantin Jakovlewitsch 1835-1875, a wellknown silversmith! A nice piece which needs some care...

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Zolotnik

Hi -

an other example



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Zolotnik

Hi -

page turner were made out of different materials: silver, tortie, enamel, Karelian birch, ivory etc.
Some from my collection:



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Zolotnik

Hi -

a pageturner is something you used to turn pages! In contors, at your home etc. It was also used as page marker or to tear pages from books, agendas and notebooks. Nothing religious!

Length differs between 25 cm and 35 cm.

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Zolotnik