I've found the Lion in the "Poinçons d'Argente"by Tardy, page 49, and it says Germany - Weimar - late XVII century, in the 925-1000 site - http://www.925-1000.com/Fgerman_marks_b1884_4.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; - it says Weimar or Heidelberg, the other one i've f...