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by agphile
Wed May 19, 2010 11:50 am
Forum: London Hallmarks
Topic: 18th century salt spoon - maker?
Replies: 6
Views: 3455

I don't recognise the mark, but I wouldn't have thought London, or even English. English Fiddle pattern spoons are mostly a 19th century style. A 19th century, or indeed late 18th century, English spoon would normally be top marked, and either fully marked or at least include a duty mark.
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by agphile
Wed May 05, 2010 1:51 pm
Forum: Exeter Hallmarks
Topic: Exeter Hallmarks and Makers Photo Request
Replies: 27
Views: 40162

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk231/agphile/sucket.jpg http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk231/agphile/suckmarks.jpg An early Joseph Hicks mark (or so I am told) that differs from the marks shown on the website— note the barred I — and is fairly tiny, no more than 3mm.wide .
by agphile
Sun Apr 25, 2010 5:43 am
Forum: Sheffield Hallmarks
Topic: Stumped with marks on old Fish Serving Set?
Replies: 5
Views: 4637

The letters are EPNS in the Gothic alphabet which was frequently used for marking silverplated objects to add a touch of "class" - buyers wanted them to look like silver and not be too obviously plated. http://www.925-1000.com/silverplate_E.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
by agphile
Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:41 pm
Forum: General Questions
Topic: Translation issue
Replies: 7
Views: 3336

Or perhaps I should have put it more simply. If you are brave enough to tear the head off a real lion, you have a torn off or "erased" head.
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by agphile
Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:30 pm
Forum: General Questions
Topic: Translation issue
Replies: 7
Views: 3336

Erase derives from the Latin eradere - to scrape off or scrape out. In heraldry it took the particular meaning of "tear off leaving jagged edges". Perhaps the easiest way to explain the usage in heraldry is to imagine you draw a picture of a lion and then rub out its head. The head would b...
by agphile
Sat Apr 10, 2010 5:46 pm
Forum: London Hallmarks
Topic: Uncrowned Leopard in 1821 - Trial Punches?
Replies: 1
Views: 1664

Not sure where you get 1816 as the last date for Barker. T R Poole's "Identifying Antique British silver records the latest use of his TB mark without a pellet as 1827.
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by agphile
Sat Apr 10, 2010 3:14 pm
Forum: Provincial & Colonial Marks
Topic: Another Colonial Curiosity
Replies: 2
Views: 2523

Welz, Cape Silver, records ICL and JCL makers marks for Johannes Casparus Lotter, 1768-1823, but only on their own or with the figure of Hope. I can't spot any Cape pseudos to match those on your spoon so I hesitate to suggest they might have been those of a supplier to the trade with Lotter adding ...
by agphile
Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:23 pm
Forum: Provincial & Colonial Marks
Topic: Cape Spoon?
Replies: 7
Views: 4537

Hi Welz attributes a number of mark combinations to Thomas Townsend. All have a clear "TT" punch, or"TT over JT" for the partnership of Thomas and John Townsend. In one case the TT is struck either side of a funny looking "duty head" that has similarites to that on the ...
by agphile
Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:53 pm
Forum: London Hallmarks
Topic: NEED TO ID ENGLISH MAKERS MARK TB
Replies: 2
Views: 1705

Thomas Bradbury and Sons - a Sheffield firm that also entered marks in London. And yes, this piece London 1894
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by agphile
Fri Mar 12, 2010 8:39 pm
Forum: Mystery Objects
Topic: Is it a known item?
Replies: 14
Views: 9958

Or bread saw?
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by agphile
Thu Mar 11, 2010 11:11 am
Forum: Birmingham Hallmarks
Topic: bad quality maker mark
Replies: 4
Views: 2811

I think it is William Hutton and Sons of Sheffield - they had a branch factory in Birmingham.

The containers are for oil and vinegar - for dressing salads and the like.
by agphile
Sat Feb 27, 2010 3:03 pm
Forum: Provincial & Colonial Marks
Topic: Cape Spoon?
Replies: 7
Views: 4537

Yes, I agree there is room for uncertainty about the initials. I think the Cape pseudos that imitate British marks were mainly, though not exclusively, used by silversmiths of British origin and were normally less crude than the ones here. There was a Joseph Ince, noted from 1823 till his death in 1...
by agphile
Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:26 am
Forum: Provincial & Colonial Marks
Topic: Cape Spoon?
Replies: 7
Views: 4537

The marks are not listed in Welz's "Cape Silver". There is an IL on its own or with a bunch of grapes attributed to Jan Lotter who is recorded 1813 -17 in Keerom St. However, he would seem to have had proper punches.
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by agphile
Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:48 pm
Forum: Other Countries
Topic: Miniature toy punch bowl
Replies: 4
Views: 2972

I don't think it is English. An English maker's mark would normally have two initials and I have not come across just the letter "u".
by agphile
Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:19 am
Forum: Silver Plate Trademarks - Single Image
Topic: Snuff spoon/salt spoon-possibly silverplate-Italy?
Replies: 2
Views: 2407

There is a long-standing and misleading tendency in the trade to describe any miniature spoon as a snuff spoon. The only undoubted snuff spoons I know of are tiny ones, a fraction the size of yours, that are occasionally found clipped inside the lid of 18th century snuff boxes. The bowl of your spoo...
by agphile
Sun Feb 21, 2010 8:08 am
Forum: London Hallmarks
Topic: Please help identify marker's mark / London Hallmark (?)
Replies: 2
Views: 1607

William Hutton and Sons Ltd - a Sheffield firm that also had siver assayed in London, this piece in 1898.

http://www.925-1000.com/dlLondon16.html#M
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by agphile
Wed Feb 10, 2010 2:32 pm
Forum: General Questions
Topic: London inns as workshop addresses
Replies: 9
Views: 5150

To flesh out my earlier comments, the legislation to set up the arrangements for street improvements in Westminster was passed in 1760. I believe the City of London followed very shortly thereafter. Allow a few years for implementation and it does indeed fit very well with the timing of changes in t...
by agphile
Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:12 pm
Forum: General Questions
Topic: London inns as workshop addresses
Replies: 9
Views: 5150

Apologies for intruding on a discussion between those keen to locate the pubs beneath the signs. Just wanted to point out that there was a deal of urban improvement to London through the 18th century and particularly from the 1760s. Roads were paved, old overhanging signs pulled down and buildings b...
by agphile
Sun Jan 31, 2010 4:45 pm
Forum: German Silver
Topic: unknown mark on rat-tail spoon
Replies: 8
Views: 5159

Excellent. The probable maker ties in well with a date for the spoon of circa 1700. Very satisfying for you!

David
by agphile
Sat Jan 30, 2010 11:42 am
Forum: London Hallmarks
Topic: Apostle spoons mystery
Replies: 5
Views: 4249

I realise that my comments in my last post would have made easier reading with an illustration. http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk231/agphile/apostleandseal.png This picture shows a seal top spoon and an apostle spoon, both provincial and from c.1630-1640, together with the short “v” heel that is...

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