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by agphile
Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:48 am
Forum: Gold - Single Image
Topic: Amber Spider Markings
Replies: 4
Views: 2743

Re: Amber Spider Markings

I should have added that it does not appear to be a gold mark so your enquiry may not be in the most appropriate forum category to get an answer.
by agphile
Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:32 am
Forum: Gold - Single Image
Topic: Amber Spider Markings
Replies: 4
Views: 2743

Re: Amber Spider Markings

This won't be much help. My eyesight is not the best but I read the mark as :ЧФЯ. The Cyrillic letters transliterate as Ch F Ya. It may or may not be relevant that Ya (Я) is the initial of the Russian word for amber. The initials presumably identify a workshop but I would only be guessing if I t...
by agphile
Tue May 27, 2014 6:28 pm
Forum: London Hallmarks
Topic: Bottom marked sauce ladle
Replies: 10
Views: 2930

Re: Bottom marked sauce ladle

Yes. There are cases where the marks are a complete forgery. This may be on a fake antique, or to appear to guarantee a silver quality that is not actually the case, or indeed simply to avoid paying duty in the days when submitting an item for assay incurred this payment. The so called duty dodgers ...
by agphile
Tue May 27, 2014 6:00 am
Forum: London Hallmarks
Topic: Bottom marked sauce ladle
Replies: 10
Views: 2930

Re: Bottom marked sauce ladle

A few quick points on the marks. Heal's London Goldsmiths records the Devonshire Watkins partnership from 1756 to 1773. Grimwade shows their mark with a pellet between the two sets of initials which seems to be what you have on your ladle and I would regard his work as the more definitive. This seem...
by agphile
Mon May 26, 2014 12:05 pm
Forum: London Hallmarks
Topic: An old London silver spoon with odd mark?
Replies: 6
Views: 2396

Re: An old London silver spoon with odd mark?

The lion (leopard) had lost his crown by 1883, so has to be 1773. As Warren says, the closed up mark nearest the bowl will be the maker's mark. The maker's and assay office marks were applied before the spoon was finished. Subsequent final shaping of the spoon could close the marks up, particularly ...
by agphile
Tue May 06, 2014 8:23 am
Forum: London Hallmarks
Topic: Sugar Tongs - Steven Ardesoif ? ? ?
Replies: 4
Views: 1800

Re: Sugar Tongs - Steven Ardesoif ? ? ?

Oh dear, Buckler, you do enjoy upsetting my happy certainties. For decades I have cheerfully ascribed any SA mark on a spoon to Stephen Adams. You have now caused me to dig out the handful of SA spoons actually in my possession: please see the pictures below which will also reveal my inadequacies as...
by agphile
Sat Mar 29, 2014 2:31 pm
Forum: General Questions
Topic: Half spoon
Replies: 3
Views: 1794

Re: Half spoon

I’m not sure it will be easy for anybody to come up with a suggestion. All I can say is that I don’t believe it is English and I don’t know enough about styles across mainland Europe to rule anywhere else in or out. More or less similar finials are sometimes found on English 16th century spoons but ...
by agphile
Wed Feb 05, 2014 8:10 am
Forum: Silverplate Trademarks - Worldwide
Topic: Pierced cup in silver.Finnish, Swedish, German? HELP!
Replies: 5
Views: 1305

Re: Pierced cup in silver.Finnish, Swedish, German? HELP!

The piece seems to be a tea glass holder. The marks are Russian, or probably Soviet, and I think not for silver but something like pewter or perhaps electroplated nickel silver . MM7 probably identifies the factory and MET1COPT means something like 1st grade metal, However, it needs an expert in Sov...
by agphile
Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:13 am
Forum: Chester Hallmarks
Topic: Unknown Maker's mark, 1909(?) Chester inkwell
Replies: 7
Views: 12439

Re: Unknown Maker's mark, 1909(?) Chester inkwell

In the case of composite objects such as those with hinged lids it was standard practice to apply a full set of marks to the main body of the item but only partial marks, sufficient to confirm the silver standard, to the attached parts.
by agphile
Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:02 pm
Forum: Chester Hallmarks
Topic: Unknown Maker's mark, 1909(?) Chester inkwell
Replies: 7
Views: 12439

Re: Unknown Maker's mark, 1909(?) Chester inkwell

Tone

I fear there is no point in debating the possibility of 1734. The object itself can be dated on form to late 19th/early 20th century. In any case, if you look at the full set of marks for 1734 you will note the different town mark and crowned leopard's head.

David
by agphile
Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:09 pm
Forum: Silver Plate Trademarks - Single Image
Topic: 40k hallmark
Replies: 1
Views: 968

Re: 40k hallmark

Are you sure this is silverplated rather than stainless steel? The lettering on your first picture seems to be the Russian abbreviation for stainless.
by agphile
Thu Jan 09, 2014 4:28 pm
Forum: Family Crests
Topic: Please help solve the mystery of the item of Walker & Hall
Replies: 16
Views: 10084

Re: Please help solve the mystery of the item of Walker & Ha

It is not possible to deduce an English name just from initials, but anyway this looks to me as if it could be Russian like the other two pieces you mention: АМП, perhaps for a first name, patronymic and surname ( имя отчество и фамилия)?
by agphile
Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:21 am
Forum: Silverplate Trademarks - Worldwide
Topic: Irish (Cork City) Flatware Early 1840s or Before?
Replies: 5
Views: 3962

Re: Irish (Cork City) Flatware Early 1840s or Before?

I'm afraid I don't recognise those marks. They are not British or Irish silver marks. As I said, the pattern of the items suggests a later date than 1842 so this may be one of those occasions when a bit of family history has managed to attach itself to the wrong objects. Sorry I cannot be more help....
by agphile
Fri Dec 27, 2013 5:51 pm
Forum: London Hallmarks
Topic: Consensus on NC mark
Replies: 2
Views: 2335

Re: Consensus on NC mark

Sorry for a delayed comment - we've been fully occupied with family over Christmas. However, I guess you may well be right about the NC mark. To be absolutely sure I suppose would require the unlikely opportunity to examine actual examples of the worn and unworn marks side by side. A little while ag...
by agphile
Fri Dec 27, 2013 5:30 pm
Forum: London Hallmarks
Topic: What is this old thing I've found?
Replies: 5
Views: 2294

Re: What is this old thing I've found?

A reproduction of the earliest known English fork, now in the V and A, see http://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O104714/fork-richard-crosse/ When you are able to provide a better image of the hallmarks I think you will find they are about 3 centuries later than 1632 rather than just a couple of years. ...
by agphile
Tue Dec 24, 2013 5:48 am
Forum: Silverplate Trademarks - Worldwide
Topic: Irish (Cork City) Flatware Early 1840s or Before?
Replies: 5
Views: 3962

Re: Irish (Cork City) Flatware Early 1840s or Before?

The style is more 1900ish than 1840ish so not from Ireland in the first half of the 19th century. If there are no marks, almost certainly base metal rather than silver, I'm sorry to say.
by agphile
Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:29 pm
Forum: British Hallmarks - Single Image
Topic: Makers mark and date help needed please on a pair of spoons
Replies: 4
Views: 2235

Re: Makers mark and date help needed please on a pair of spo

On the basis of the photos I would probably go for “s”, but you have the advantage of seeing the spoons “in the flesh”. Either way, Old English fits in nicely with the 1770s by which time Hanoverian was on its way out as far as English flatware is concerned. You were right to feel very tentative abo...
by agphile
Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:58 pm
Forum: British Hallmarks - Single Image
Topic: Makers mark and date help needed please on a pair of spoons
Replies: 4
Views: 2235

Re: Makers mark and date help needed please on a pair of spo

The stems look like those of 18th century spoons, I assume Hanoverian, so I would suggest 1773 and Thomas Chawner, a known and prolific spoonmaker.
by agphile
Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:54 am
Forum: Mystery Objects
Topic: Mystery box
Replies: 9
Views: 3296

Re: Mystery box

It looks like a tobacco box but perhaps at this size more likely a snuff box?
by agphile
Sat Oct 12, 2013 6:58 pm
Forum: Silverplate Trademarks - Worldwide
Topic: Russian Cutlery, history for dating
Replies: 6
Views: 3403

Re: Russian Cutlery, history for dating

While it is possible that somewhere in the West a deal was done with one of the Soviet Trade Delegations to import some cut-price, base metal flatware, I think it unlikely. I doubt whether such items would be stamped with the domestic price and it seems to me more likely that the set was either a gi...

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